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The Cybertruck Appears to Be More Deadly Than the Infamous Ford Pinto, According to a New Analysis

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  • D [email protected]

    How do you do something "correctly" when nobody knows what that is? If your main priority is to do it "correctly" you will never develop anything fundamentally new.

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    Okay so say your testing a brand new rocket engine idea. It uses a fuel nobody has tried to use before. So what you do is you figure out how much energy this fuel has and do some math to figure out how much you'll need to take with you for the typical rocket. You design an engine for this spec or better and thoroughly test it to make sure it's behaving like expected. You eventually mount it to a rocket and make sure in practice it behaves as you expect. Next you put a payload in the rocket and test it again. If at any point things don't behave as expected you have to fix your whole model.

    SpaceX struggles to go a launch without their engines destroying themselves. Perhaps they should go back a few steps?

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      Is it me or are there guts in this picture?

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      Apparently it's a photo from "Cybertruck explosion outside Trump international hotel investigated for terror ties"

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        Is it me or are there guts in this picture?

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        Hard to tell. The picture was widely used in the media, and they're usually quite careful about that kind of thing. There's something reddish in it, but it could be material from the truck or its contents. One of the photos the police released of his guns had some read foamy material in it, another photo had some stringy red material (plastic?) lying in the road, and there were various red items in the bed too.

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          Leaking fuel is generally a bad thing. It may not hit the differential but let's say the exhaust or muffler is banged up and pointed downwards -- still gonna have a nasty fire

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          Nasty fire still sounds better than instant explosion! Haha

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            Lots of cars had this same design in the 70s, with the fuel tank low in the rear, right behind the rear differential.

            Jeep Grand Cherokees were this way between 1993 and 2004 and Jeep Libertys were this way between 2002 and 2007.

            But then again they are jeeps.

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              Is it me or are there guts in this picture?

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              The driver was inside the vehicle at the time, so I'm sure some of that is his remains. But a lot is probably burned seat material and such. It's hard to say for sure.

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                Cybertruck will have 14.52 fatalities per 100,000 units — far eclipsing the Pinto’s 0.85.

                Holy shit, that means the Cybertruck fatality rate is around 17 times higher than the Pinto's!

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                Tesla #1

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                  I'm guessing that some people at the National Transportation Safety Board are about to get fired by Elon Musk.

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                    Cybertruck will have 14.52 fatalities per 100,000 units — far eclipsing the Pinto’s 0.85.

                    Holy shit, that means the Cybertruck fatality rate is around 17 times higher than the Pinto's!

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                    If you read the article is was specifically died by fire. Not any other cause of death.

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                    • B [email protected]

                      Pedestrians would probably learn more from the experience if they don't die.

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                      ^(^^s^^o^^r^^r^^y^ ^d^^r^^o^^p^^p^^e^^d^ ^/^^s^^)^

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                        But it is so financially efficient! It isn't wasting money on safety.

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                          I'm guessing that some people at the National Transportation Safety Board are about to get fired by Elon Musk.

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                          Safety belts are a waste of precious money!

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                            I love Elon Bad posts, but I think it's worthwhile to examine why Elon bad in this case.

                            Like many reactionaries, Elon's business philosophy is pure tech-bro-libertarianism. And like all libertarians, he's stuck in the neoliberal mindset of less regulation (don't scrutinize) and more efficiency (let me be cheap), in order to create the safe space that industrialists need to extract, er create.

                            He's literally said things like (paraphrasing)

                            When I see a specification for three bolts I ask: why can't we do it with two?

                            His transparent reasoning is that if he's allowed to cut corners, he'll save money today and consequences can be dealt with when they arise.

                            He's following the software model of release a minimally viable product and patch it later. Only instead of user frustration at being beta testers, you fucking die maybe.

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                            He is like a child who is still rebelling against his parents who made him go to bed early too many times.

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                              If you read the article is was specifically died by fire. Not any other cause of death.

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                              Wish I could find data on all fatalities/100,000

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                              • G [email protected]

                                If you read the article is was specifically died by fire. Not any other cause of death.

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                                Top of the line in utility sports.

                                Unexplained fires are a matter for the courts.

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                                  You mean he drew the design with a crayon?

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                                  • F [email protected]

                                    Look, all I'm asking is that Tesla investors lose all their goddamn money.

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                                    Lol. You're getting your wish. They basically would be in the red if it weren't for some credits and Bitcoin they sold.

                                    https://electrek.co/2025/01/30/a-quarter-of-teslas-earnings-were-due-to-recongnizing-a-600-million-gain-on-bitcoin/

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                                      Might have something to do with it looking fucking stupid.

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                                      Most US trucks look fucking stupid. In my honest opinion.

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                                        No shit, it's literally just a big bullet. A wrecking ball on wheels.

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                                        • G [email protected]

                                          If you read the article is was specifically died by fire. Not any other cause of death.

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                                          Right but the specific issue with the Pinto was that it would explode into flames on a rear impact, so this is the appropriate metric.

                                          Like deaths from other accidents would skew the numbers anyway becausd 70s cars were death traps compared to today, but even in that context, the Pinto's explosions were alarming.

                                          Beating it on that isolated metric is a very special kind of achievement.

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