Onboarding experience needs to be simpler for mass adoption
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This account is new, but I trust it.
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I think they should stick to the "email provider" analogy. Whole paragraph should be something like:
The only thing you need to start interacting with the Fediverse is an account with one of the many providers, just like with email! Providers are freely available across the globe: pick one that suits your location or interests best! You can start browsing the content of nearly the entire Fediverse from whatever provider you choose. Don't worry, you can always create an account with a different provider later.
You could add a sentence or two about where to find sensible defaults or link an article that explains the more subtle things.
I think the emphasis on instances (and not naming them the more familiar providers) hinders adoption.
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Different instances that have a unique interest or theme will determine the type and feel of content in your local feed, and can have a tangible community as you recognize names from your instance. That's the main difference.
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This keeps coming back from time to time. imo we need an instance or method to sandbox newbies.
My old comment:
A custom feed that allows new members to see a variety of the best that Lemmy has to offer would be a good start. Then, when they are comfortable with the platform and its dynamics, they can customise it further, or swap the newbie feed for their own custom filter (which practically would come down to community subscriptions, I suppose?)
Now instead of making this comment very long, I’ll put in an video game anology to make it a bit more digestible:
What we need is a tutorial area that showcases all the different things that the Lemmy endgame has to offer. Creating memes, sharing news, the art of shitposting, being a lurker, actual discussions vs just scrolling to see the funnies: all these things are enjoyed by different types of people, and before they can reclass and enjoy the wild open world of Lemmy, it would be good for them to get comfortable with the controls and settings in a relative safe space.
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hexbear (RIP)
Rest In Perdition
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Do we want 'mass adoption'? and if so, why? and what would that look like, if we had it? how would we know that we had got it, and what good would the getting do us?
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If new users were asked to pick 3 or more topics from the top 10, then the most relevant instance could be assigned
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It just isn't possible, and we should want to dumb down the introduction too much. The Fediverse is not a centralised medium, and to participate in it, its users should understand that, analogous to how you would instruct people before using motor vehicles. Some things are just essential and need to be taught. Not teaching the stuff doesn't make it disappear. If some people cannot get behind the idea, then either find novel, intuitive ways of conveying it, or just accept that they cannot be a part of the Fediverse.
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Honestly to a certain extent I think being decentralized is somewhat beneficial. Perhaps it's just the fact I've been visiting forums for like 20 years and feeling jaded, but I never liked that any knuckle dragger could easily make an account and act like an ass.
It's not a very high bar to clear to figure out how to sign up for lemmy, so if you can't even figure that out, maybe it's for the best to help prevent polluting the user pool. If you're gonna be an ass, you should at least have to work for it.
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I've seen people using Voyager for a year and not even knowing what their instance is. They seem content, vote, post just like on Reddit.
People can drive a car without knowing what type of engine it is. They turn the wheel, it turns.
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join-lemmy.org tried that approach, the experience is subpar: https://lemmy.world/post/24220536
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Makes sense once there's enough of a userbase....but currently there isn't a huge amount of content of interest on Lemmy and sticking to a local instance just limits this even more. Currently I have to stick to "all" as even areas of subscription can run out of content with a quick scroll session.
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unique interest or theme will determine the type and feel of content in your local feed
Then selection of interests and themes should be included in the onboarding process, instead of the mumbo-jumbo about choosing instances.
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We just need good defaults.
Sure driving a 2 ton box around takes skill, but we should still make it as easy and smooth ride as possible.
Add Power Steering, Climate Control, ABS, Navigation, a Radio etc.We shouldn't give people a shitbox and expect them to enjoy driving it, especially when they're used to better.
If we don't fix our bad UX, we're going to filter out all non tech savvy people, and create a bubble.
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That's a great analogy, but it's too big a barrier for many, most give up before picking a instance, we should set good defaults and then the users can figure it out once they are used to the platform.
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Default way to access the platform for the average potential news joiners is mobile
Voyager, Thunder, Artic provide good defaults.
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Whether or not we want mass adoption I can't say, but what we don't want is to have a filter that only tech savvy people get past.
We want all kinds of people on Lemmy, not just tech savvy people that push through the bad UX
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Unique interests can be already be self-curated by subscribing to certain communities. All apps have the subscribed feed. There's no need for communities of a certain type to be on one instance.
Edit: typo
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There’s no need for communities of a certain type to be on one instance.
It's nice to have country or language-communities in the local feed of one instance. Feddit.org or jlai.lu are good examples.
