‘We will soon be next’: German leaders sound alarm on Trump’s Ukraine plan
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Because nobody believes it can actually happen. 70 years of continuous peace makes people complacent. Which is good in itself, but when shit hits the fan we just sit back and expect it to blow over.
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When did European leaders ever say that the US should put boots on the ground in Ukraine?
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From Swedes that are paying noticeably higher energy prices because the German grid went from a net exporter to a mixed grid that can have a surplus when winds are high but usually needs to burn gas that's imported indirectly from Russia when it's low driving up energy prices in nearby regions.
Germans love to talk about how they never needed Nuclear power and there seems to be an irrational hatred of an incredibly clean form of power but it's clearly a problem:
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I don't get. What's Trumps bargaining chip. If Ukraine and Europe doesn't approve their peace plan, what is his leverage? Stop supporting Ukraine? He and his goons have already said this will eventually happen.
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Germans are profiting off the war and they can suck my european D
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It's not hatred, it's fear. Many Germans lived through the fallout of Chernobyl. You might still say it's irrational, but it's not "hatred" and it's not unfounded.
I don't get this weird obsession with labelling everything "hate", even if it's driven by other simple emotions.
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We'll have an election in a few days here in Germany. And we're already stumbling.
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Which was a mistake, since it was already after the Crimea annexation.
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It's very unfounded and stupid.
Nuclear plants are all over the world, with much better designs.
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No, it's objectively not unfounded. Again, you might call it irrational, but that's not the same thing.
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He is Putin's stooge. Trump LOVES dictators and billionaires, because he wants to be, or be seen as, both of those things. You might ask why the Israelis preferred Trump over Biden/Kamala even though the latter were as much supportive of Israel as Trump is. The reason is that Trump's rhetoric is stronger and more direct, and on top of that, he is a VERY easily manipulatible bitch despite his reputation and personal belief that he is uncontrollable. The other elites know this, and this is why he is popular with them even if he is an absolute disaster for most people.
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everyone shoulda been gearing up to defend the world from russian imperialism ever since it became clear putin was dictator for life in 2007 or 8. there have been clear and obvious signs this was coming for nearly two decades now and yet all our leaders are somehow shocked, appalled, and on their backfoot. like where y'all been? putin became dictator for life, invaded Crimea, anexed it, fucked around in everyone else's politics giving us donnie dickhead, donnie dickhead extorted Ukraine, them and all their authoritarian buddies bungled (perhaps purposefully) flattening the curce, putin invaded Ukraine wholesale seeking to wipe it off the map, put even more money into the streets to get donnie dickhead back, and now we're here. with people somehow surprised by this latest step in russia's path along aleksander dugin's foundations of geopolitics. how are any of these leaders surprised? its all laid out in foundations of geopolitics, project russia, and project 2025. i'm just some farm country idiot in the hills of appalachia, but somehow i can see all this and these world leaders can't?
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So he just wants to go tickle Putins balls. Unless he's there trying to sell Europe and NATO.
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So sad to hear.
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You arent wrong. Obamas great sin wasnt the tan suit, it was playing defense against Russia. It doest mater how strong you are or how weak your enemy is, if they only need to land one lucky shot to win you cant let them shoot indefinately without firing back. Then Biden made the same mistake...and here we are.
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Sounds like sweden is just pushing the blame to germany. Populism at its finest
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Arguing about Chernobyl is about the dumbest thing to do.
It was very old reactor, no other like that is in Germany, therefore it's unfounded.
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No, fear doesn't work like that. Just because something is unlikely doesn't mean it can't happen, and fear tends to be about just those things.
Again, you can call it irrational, but it is objectively not unfounded. There is a foundation, even if it's unlikely. You don't get to change the meaning of the word "unfounded" just because you think something isn't likely to happen.
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And who’s going to defend the world from American imperialism?? (42 invasions since the end of WW2, 5 invasions since 2000, Canada, Mexico, Panama, Greenland…)
We Europeans have an enemy and that enemy is usa (it’s always been)
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all imperialism is a threat to everyone everywhere, be it russian, american, or chinese
