Why Don't EVs Come With Spare Tires?
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Ever heard of AAA?
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And carrying a spare makes sense in those situations. Where as someone who drives in a city or suburbs with acceptable mobile coverage doesn't need the spare.
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You clearly didnt read the post, let me highlight the two statements that make your comment unreaasonable:
If you are in a situation where a flat is high impact (driving into the bush, etc) then you need a solution, and you should prepare for that.
Firstly the address the possibility of driving in remote areas and state you need to prepare in that case
But for the vast majority of drivers, and especially EV drivers, a tow truck is actually a solution, because they are almost always in a metropolitan area.
And then point out for the vast majority of EV drivers that isn't in their risk profile
So your whining about "whaddabout da rockieezz" shows you simply didnt read or comprehend.
You're being like the idiots who whine "but I need to drive a thousand miles in one go while towing a 6ton trailer so an EV is useless for everyone on the planet because it doesn't work for me"
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The number of people who would even know how to change a tyre is unfortunately decreasing. Manufacturers therefore have less reason to include something that requires allocating space, carrying extra weight, and a small extra cost for each car, because they know not enough people are going to care about the loss of a spare to make a difference to sales. I'd wager this is particularly true for EVs as they seem to attract a lot of people who are scared of basic maintenance. It's pretty poor of a company to not include a spare on something that's advertised for use on dirt though, even if the model in question doesn't actually seem like something that its buyers will actually take off the tar.
I personally would want a proper full sized spare in any of my vehicles, though I'm prepared to make an exception for my motorbikes due to the obvious logistical problems. Space savers are better than nothing but then you have to deal with speed restrictions and having to change wheels twice if you get a flat on the front. It's rare for me to get a puncture but it's nice to know that I can just quickly change wheels and carry on even if I somehow managed to put a big gash in a tyre or bend a rim. Even for just a basic puncture in town I can't imagine wanting to faff around on the side of a road for ages waiting for roadside assistance to come and fix something I could have done myself and been back on the road in 15 minutes.
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Don't most EVs have an empty storage area where the engine usually is on normal cars? Just stick a spare in there.
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Wow, so not driving in a major city is now "driving in the bush". Also, driving outside a major city is also = to towing a 6ton trailer.
It literally couldn't be to see family that don't live in the same city, going to another major city, camping in well maintained national parks, going to an amusement park that isn't in a major city.. Nope, it's either major city or hauling giant trailers.
Hint, maybe you should go out sometime and see how short sighted your vague definitions and answers really are.
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Ours didn't. It had some bullshit to spray into the tyre to do a repair. That failed, and made it unrepairable to boot.
So now we have a spare. Have a spare. It can a slimline one, it just needs to get you to a garage.
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You mean ride a bus?
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Mate I grew up on a cattle station where the next nearest house was a 100km away. I know what living in tge boondocks is.
I also know that this use case is a very small minority of people, AND HE ALREADY addressed your minority issue.
You can keep trying to be hard done by or accept that your situation is representative of less than 1% of EV sales
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So the guy you’re responding to most likely doesn’t drive through lumber and construction sites all day. Most people don’t. That’s why most people don’t have 20 flats a week from driving around in nails.
You ever think maybe you’re an exception because of your habits that most people don’t have?
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Hence why I said "my sedan that [pretty much stays on normal roads] has never had a flat."
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How is a flat tire an emergency?
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Hint, maybe you should go out sometime and see how short sighted your vague definitions and answers really are.
How moronic. If you think cellphones stop working once you leave major Metropolitan areas, maybe it is you that needs to actually get out and go somewhere. You think amusement parks and airports don't have cell coverage? Jesus christ. What's your plan if you get two flat tires?
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Then why are you surprised the person you’re responding too hasn’t had a flat?
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I'm...not?
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My minivan has a donut spare that is stored under the car (inside a cover). Super easy to get to, and never in the way.
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It's too small for a rim and tyre.
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I don't believe you've never had a flat in 20 years.
Oh ok.
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In the city, not much of one. Rural roads with bad cell coverage at night in the dead of winter? Life or death situation.
That being said, I think a spare is unnecessary for 99% of drivers. In ~20 years of driving, I've only used a spare maybe 3 times, and those were more for convenience than necessity. My last car just had a pump, and I got a screw it in. I just aired it up and drove to the tire shop. After that I bought a plug kit for a quick roadside repair.
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Our EV doesn't have a spare, which I wasn't concerned about as I've had maybe two flats in my driving history and one of those I just pumped up and drove to the tyre shop for a repair.
What did catch me out recently was not having a jack. It makes sense though - car has no spare, so why include a jack?
We got a screw in the tyre a few weeks back and it was leaking too bad to pump up for even a short drive. I figured I'd jack up the car, take off the rim, and take it in the wife's car to the tyre joint.
Things to note:
- No jack, as mentioned. Went to the local auto store and bought a pretty mid range scissor jack that looked like every other car jack I've ever used.
- EVs are really bloody heavy. A standard 1600KG scissor jack could barely move the thing. Went back and bought a much heavier duty trolley jack.
- A 3200KG trolley jack makes lifting the car easy, but the jack itself is huge and leaves no space on the lifting points to put jack stands.
- An EV is really stiff - lifting the rear passenger side resulted in every wheel except the front drivers side coming off the ground.
Didn't want to leave it perched on a jack and a single wheel, so took the tyre off and ended up replacing the screw in the hole that was leaking with a bigger screw... Then pumping it up and driving it to the tyre joint.
Moral of the story - might be easier to just carry a small selection of different sized screws and a screw driver.
