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Mexican President Threatens to Sue Google Over 'Gulf of America' Label on Maps.

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    Golf of Portugal
    While we are at renaming things...

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    • ghostalmedia@lemmy.worldG [email protected]

      It also kind of makes sense to leave the name in place since the world has been calling it the "Gulf of Mexico" mid-1500s. The original name was in reference to the Aztecs.

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      It's also the country that has the majority of the coastline

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      • M [email protected]

        Republicans are so good at baiting liberals into useless bullshit arguments, while they plunder stuff that actually matters.

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        I mean it's Mexico. I wouldn't really consider them "liberal".

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        • L [email protected]

          My phone is a Pixel on Google Fi, and I have a YouTube premium account. I've got a lot of work ahead of me 😞 lol

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          Check out c/[email protected], they have some software recommendations for degoogling.

          Since you have a Pixel you should be able to install GrapheneOS, which removes a lot of Google services and is a lot more secure.

          I would also recommend FreeTube, which is ad-free and has the feature to download videos like YT premium. You can even import your subscriptions.

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          • B [email protected]

            Google also removed the ability to suggest edits to specifically the Gulf.

            Guess they knew ahead of time they'd get an influx of requests to change or back.

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            They hadn't removed that ability as of Thursday evening, because I was able to give feed back. My guess is they got a rash of hate messages similar to mine and decided to remove it because of that. I hate them so much right now, but Google is unfortunately the forefront service for my online life. So much I do with Google apps that I really can't get in any one other place.

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            • K [email protected]

              Following your logic Lake Michigan should be renamed Lake America. There's a bunch of lakes up there, do they all get renamed Lake of America? Seems confusing!

              Here's a list of all the gulfs in the Americas:

              North America

              1. Gulf of Mexico
              2. Gulf of Alaska
              3. Gulf of California (Sea of Cortes)
              4. Gulf of St. Lawrence
              5. Gulf of Honduras
              6. Gulf of Panama
              7. Gulf of Tehuantepec

              Central and South America

              1. Gulf of Darien (Colombia and Panama)
              2. Gulf of Venezuela
              3. Gulf of Guayaquil (Ecuador)

              Following your logic, they're all badly named because that's just named after the region they're in, not the content.

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              Not badly named, I just don't see anything wrong renaming it to the Gulf of America. It's like renaming the South China Sea to South East Asia Sea.

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              • flyingsquid@lemmy.worldF [email protected]

                Showing with both names does not make it any better and I'm not sure why you think it does. They're just kowtowing to a unilateral decision made by one of the multiple countries that border the Gulf of Mexico.

                I assume you would not want Taiwan to be called Chinese Taipei on Google Maps despite China calling it that.

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                Woah, who said I’m fine with that? I’m Mexican and very much resent the idiocy of Trump, but our president is also an idiot who “threatens” to do something, but can assure you she will not actually do anything.

                IMO she’s posturing to her base, but she says she might go against Google because she doesn’t dare to go against Trump, and she needs to look like she’s doing something.

                Meanwhile, we have very urgent problems in Mexico like rampant crime, medicine scarcity, corruption, etc. that she doesn’t even mention in her daily morning speeches.

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                • I [email protected]

                  We did it with Lemmy. It CAN be done!

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                  To an extent. Lemmy is a useful substitute for reddit because it's anonymous, so I don't know and to an extent don't care who I'm talking to. With messenger services it's a different use case, I need the exact people I want to talk to on there, or it's essentially worthless.

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                  • K [email protected]

                    Well, the continent was named America, not the US continent. So the name Gulf of America just sounds right.

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                    Whoa, fella, you can't apply logic and reasoning around here.

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                    • viking@infosec.pubV [email protected]

                      To an extent. Lemmy is a useful substitute for reddit because it's anonymous, so I don't know and to an extent don't care who I'm talking to. With messenger services it's a different use case, I need the exact people I want to talk to on there, or it's essentially worthless.

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                      Its not completely anonymous when the server admins have your IP.

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                      • dukethorion@lemmy.worldD [email protected]

                        Whoa, fella, you can't apply logic and reasoning around here.

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                        True, lol.

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                        • dukethorion@lemmy.worldD [email protected]

                          Its not completely anonymous when the server admins have your IP.

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                          True, I meant anonymous in the sense that participants are not generally identifiable by one another.

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                          • M [email protected]

                            Republicans are so good at baiting liberals into useless bullshit arguments, while they plunder stuff that actually matters.

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                            I don't think that's fair in this case, she's been killing it. She's been drawing hard lines and meeting Trump blow for blow...

                            As for what's important, she got concessions so far. Trump got to claim a win, but she let Trump use a previously negotiated deal while getting the US to commit to cracking down on the flow of guns into Mexico

                            And now she's fighting on the bullshit culture war stuff... But you know Mexico speaks a different language and isn't changing the name on their side, right?

                            The threats against Google are a threat to crack down on a massive US tech company, which is probably (undoubtedly) related to the threat of delayed tarrifs

                            She's playing the game. If only the liberals would wake up and realize the game has changed too

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                            • R [email protected]

                              Whatever. Enjoy your rant. It's going to be a fun four years for you

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                              Yes, that is one way to show that you never actually read the post.

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                              • D [email protected]

                                Can you site something for what you're talking about?

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                                https://www.imo.org/en/about/Conventions/Pages/ListOfConventions.aspx

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                                • V [email protected]

                                  in their jurisdiction (Mexico) it is actually the "Gulf of Mexico" in Google Maps, they don't get the "Gulf of America" name.

                                  I'm in Europe and for me it says "Gulf of Mexico (Gulf of America)". 🥴

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                                  I've heard that in Germany it's "Golf von Mexiko (Golf von Amerika)". That's really annoying. I can vaguely understand it having the parenthesized name in English. Say in 3 years some kid in England is doing a report about something in the US and the Gulf of America comes up. Maybe you'd want the kid to be able to find it on the map. But, maybe it's fine if the kid has to look it up somewhere else, realize that's the stupid name, then search for Gulf of Amerikkka.

                                  But, it doesn't make any sense to do that for other languages. Just like we don't get Finland (Suomi) when searching for Finland, Finns shouldn't get something like Meksikonlahti (Gulf of America). They aren't going to be exposed to / hearing the Finnish translation of the English name, so it's not helpful in any way to have that parenthesized version.

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                                  • flyingsquid@lemmy.worldF [email protected]

                                    Yes, that is one way to show that you never actually read the post.

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                                    You conflate not agreeing with not reading, because if someone reads your posts, they have to agree, right? So if someone doesn't agree, it simply means they didn't read your post.

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                                      You conflate not agreeing with not reading, because if someone reads your posts, they have to agree, right? So if someone doesn't agree, it simply means they didn't read your post.

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                                      You neither agreed with what I said nor disagreed with what I said. You did not address what I said at all. I will give you one last chance, but I doubt you will bother:

                                      “Mount McKinley” is “just a name” for what is supposed to be called Denali. Ask an indigenous person if they think changing the name of a sacred mountain to the name of a man responsible for one of them many genocides of their people is “just a name.”

                                      Then ask virtually any black person if they don’t care about Trump and Republicans restoring Confederate generals’ names to military bases. Find out if they think it’s “just a name.”

                                      So, since you've claimed you addressed it and all you keep saying is, "it's just a name," is your contention that Mount McKinley and Fort Bragg are just names and those people of color shouldn't get so uppity about them?

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                                      • flyingsquid@lemmy.worldF [email protected]

                                        You neither agreed with what I said nor disagreed with what I said. You did not address what I said at all. I will give you one last chance, but I doubt you will bother:

                                        “Mount McKinley” is “just a name” for what is supposed to be called Denali. Ask an indigenous person if they think changing the name of a sacred mountain to the name of a man responsible for one of them many genocides of their people is “just a name.”

                                        Then ask virtually any black person if they don’t care about Trump and Republicans restoring Confederate generals’ names to military bases. Find out if they think it’s “just a name.”

                                        So, since you've claimed you addressed it and all you keep saying is, "it's just a name," is your contention that Mount McKinley and Fort Bragg are just names and those people of color shouldn't get so uppity about them?

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                                        Since you have completely hijacked this from talking about the Gulf, as I said, call it what you want. I'll probably continue to call it Denali, because it's just a name.

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                                        • R [email protected]

                                          Since you have completely hijacked this from talking about the Gulf, as I said, call it what you want. I'll probably continue to call it Denali, because it's just a name.

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                                          Enjoy your privilege.

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