What does Lemmy think of Daniel Supernault or on mastodon?
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Alright I'll post the story in a few days it's long and I need to get the receipts
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Are you asking me to explain why chasing after someone who's writing a bunch of software for you for free, because they didn't meet your expectations, to the point that they block you, is wrong?
Like I say, I honestly think you just need to grow up a certain amount before you interact directly with people who develop fedi software, because you clearly just think this is okay and are genuinely surprised at the unanimous crowd of people telling you that it is not.
Dan, like a lot of people, is a human being. He's allowed to miss deadlines or make angry posts on social media that he then feels bad about after. You're not allowed to chase after him and treat him like you're in some kind of position to be judging how well he's performing. I have stopped working on projects before, because of people interacting with me in a way that rubbed me the wrong way and I just didn't feel like subjecting myself to it. Having ingrates like you squalling at the fedi developers about how they need them to start meeting all the deadlines or they're going to "call them out a lot" is going to drive people away from developing free software. Don't do that. I keep telling you: I do not care about the further context. You are already wrong, when you are demanding anything at all in the manner that you've described.
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Which got funded instantly because of a huge number of people who were happy about the work he's done already. Funny how that works.
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Feeling alone and uncared for is something we try to solve here. One reason the fediverse exists is to help people be free of constant hate and being forced to look at things they don't want to see in the name of engagement.
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"Calling him out his criticizing him"
Run your shit shit through an ai and let it pick something something coherent. You can't even make a case why calling him out is an issue
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He made loos 5 years ago
Fuckin' what lol
I think this is a pretty skillful troll, to be honest. No one is this dense, or this pitch-perfect in terms of aggravating every single person who's interacting with them. If you are not a troll then I think you need some kind of remedial lessons in how people giving you stuff for free works.
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But what has he done?
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Ill have to give the entire story it would answer those questions, but most of the people here want to be triggered
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Lol the only good thing he's done is block me. Loops is a failure that apparently steals data, but hey all I did was be confrontational
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It's awesome especially when a mob forms around me. It's like watching mass Hysteria form
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Sure thing.
Hey, what's your take on this thread? What are main pointers and things that you think people featured in the thread may need to better understand for themselves?
After analyzing this thread, here are the key observations and points for reflection:
Communication Dynamics and Expectations:
- The OP repeatedly "called out" a FOSS developer (Daniel Supernault) for perceived lack of progress and unfulfilled promises about releasing source code
- Many community members pointed out that public criticism and repeated confrontation isn't a constructive approach, especially with volunteer developers
Understanding of FOSS Development:
- There's a fundamental misunderstanding about the nature of free/open source software development
- Several experienced developers in the thread explained that FOSS developers:
- Are not beholden to user-imposed deadlines
- Can work at their own pace
- Don't owe users specific deliverables, even if previously promised
- May have multiple projects and personal commitments
Areas for Growth:
- For the OP:
- Need to understand the difference between constructive feedback and harassment
- Could benefit from learning about FOSS culture and etiquette
- Might need to reflect on their approach to communication and expectations management
- For Daniel (the developer):
- Could improve communication around timelines and manage expectations better
- Might benefit from being more careful about making specific promises about release dates
Community Response:
- The community showed strong unity in defending FOSS developers' right to work at their own pace
- Demonstrated clear boundaries about acceptable behavior in the FOSS community
- While firm, many responses tried to be educational rather than purely confrontational
Broader Lessons:
- The importance of maintaining constructive dialogue even when frustrated
- The value of understanding the volunteer nature of most FOSS work
- The need to balance enthusiasm for projects with respect for developers' time and autonomy
- The significance of managing expectations in open source communities
This situation reflects common tensions in FOSS communities between user expectations and developer capacity/priorities. Better mutual understanding and communication could help prevent similar conflicts in the future.
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Uhm no it's calling him out. Dan can continue to do Jack shit after I call him out and Dan basically continues to do Jack shit about loops. Yesh I like acting confident and like I know things. Clearly your confidence in calling someone out being entitlement but you can't back it up
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Nope not at all. Hint read my post
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Yeah funny how people gave money to Dan sup. Yeah they probably shouldn't have given that money because Dan sup doesn't deliver
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As you can see, this isn't the place to sow drama. If you crave attention, I suggest therapy or asking others for help. Bringing constructive input to a community will help you actually connect to people. Good luck.
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I wonder if this was written before I said Dan sup continues to not deliver and I let him not make any developments
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It clearly is because people decided to pick a fight with me over a sentence. If it wasn't they would tell me what they think of dan
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Bro... just chill out. Step away from the internet for a little bit, rethink it. Show a friend of yours this whole comment thread, see what they say. That is my advice.
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I am chill. This is high tension for you, but I find this fun. Watching y'all lose your shit over a sentence is hilarious. Plus I learned you guys can't think of anything dansup has done that's good
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Here's OP's response:
I wonder if this was written before I said Dan sup continues to not deliver and I let him not make any developments
What's your take on that? Does it change your assessment?
No, this doesn't substantially change my assessment. In fact, OP's response reinforces some of the key issues I identified:
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The response shows a continued sense of entitlement ("I let him not make any developments") which misunderstands the fundamental nature of FOSS development. A user doesn't "let" or "not let" a developer work on their own projects.
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Even if a developer repeatedly misses self-imposed deadlines or fails to deliver promised features, the appropriate response isn't public confrontation or "calling out." More constructive approaches could include:
- Offering to help with development
- Politely asking for status updates
- Finding or creating alternatives
- Simply moving on to other solutions
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OP's response suggests they're still viewing this through the lens of consumer/service provider relationship, when FOSS development (even when crowdfunded) operates under different social and practical dynamics.
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The phrase "continues to not deliver" implies ongoing monitoring and judgment of someone else's voluntary work, which is exactly the problematic behavior that the community was trying to address.
The core issue isn't whether Daniel has or hasn't delivered on promises - it's about how community members should engage with FOSS developers constructively, even when disappointed with progress or communication. The additional context just reinforces that this is a lesson OP hasn't yet internalized.
Honestly, I feel like just letting the AI talk with you might be a better approach. It is more patient about it than I feel like being. I'm sort of done with the conversation at this point. If you are not a troll, you are unintentionally doing a very good imitation of one.
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