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Kindle Is Making It Harder to Switch to Rival eReader Brands.

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  • S [email protected]

    That's where I'm getting conflicting info: I understand you won't be able to "download and transfer via USB" from the Amazon website but when you download a book from the Kindle over wifi it's still a file on your kindle that can be browsed to if you connect your Kindle to a computer via USB

    Then you copy that downloaded ebook (.kfx) to your computer and import into Calibre and use the Kindle plugin that strips DRM from .kfx files.

    I'm going to try that today and see if it actually works...

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    It is pretty obvious why they are doing this though, but it also means you don't own them, you are renting them.

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      On February 26th, Kindle customers will lose the ability to download eBook purchases directly to their PC. If you want to switch to a rival eReader brand in the future, I suggest that you use the soon-to-be discontinued "Download and Transfer via USB" feature to archive your Kindle library.

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      In the meantime, hackers have just released a new jailbreak and made it a more open platform than ever :^)

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      • H [email protected]

        I am sorry, what?

        Turn on PC or phone. Download ebook from torrent site. Enjoy.

        It's not difficult to switch?

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        Oddly enough, pirated ebooks are a malware minefield. And hard to find.

        That said, I have about 8000.

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        • pika@sh.itjust.worksP [email protected]

          unfortunately though, due to the same issues there isn't a very large second hand market of those either. Like the cheapest remarkable second hand I could find was still 300$ and the cheapest pine note was 270$ for preowns.

          when you compare it to the kindle which has preowns starting at 40$ it's a hard buy

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          I got a secondhand Kobo on eBay for less than $100, almost in new condition (the seller just forgot to include the charging cable, but luckily I had plenty of spare micro-USB cables). It's a 2018 model, but it has 8 GB of storage, plenty for most people, and a nice 6" 300 PPI screen with warm light and dark mode. It's more than sufficient.

          Point being, alternatives are out there.

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            On February 26th, Kindle customers will lose the ability to download eBook purchases directly to their PC. If you want to switch to a rival eReader brand in the future, I suggest that you use the soon-to-be discontinued "Download and Transfer via USB" feature to archive your Kindle library.

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            i buy most ebooks from a small local bookstore. for the rest there's still zlib

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            • T [email protected]

              I'd love to see them put that on the big black dildo I purchase each year. Try me!

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              #144

              Lol

              sorry vibrating/heating function locked until daily dues are paid.

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                On February 26th, Kindle customers will lose the ability to download eBook purchases directly to their PC. If you want to switch to a rival eReader brand in the future, I suggest that you use the soon-to-be discontinued "Download and Transfer via USB" feature to archive your Kindle library.

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                #145

                That was amusingly well timed:

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                • jzzvid@lemmy.blahaj.zoneJ [email protected]

                  I love how hackable Kobos are. I put KOReader on mine and it's honestly just the best experience I could ask for.

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                  That and the upgradeable storage... as soon as I can figure out how to solve my partition issues.

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                    On February 26th, Kindle customers will lose the ability to download eBook purchases directly to their PC. If you want to switch to a rival eReader brand in the future, I suggest that you use the soon-to-be discontinued "Download and Transfer via USB" feature to archive your Kindle library.

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                    To all the people who are saying "I'll just pirate books," you are aware you can buy eBooks from places that Amazon, right?

                    Have a look at https://bookshop.org/ebooks
                    You can buy books/eBooks and support local bookstores that aren't Barnes & Nobles or Amazon.

                    I'd suggest you download/archive your Kindle books and then buy your eBooks from elsewhere. You can still load those onto your Kindle.

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                      It is pretty obvious why they are doing this though, but it also means you don't own them, you are renting them.

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                      no doubt

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                      • generic_computers@lemmy.zipG [email protected]

                        To all the people who are saying "I'll just pirate books," you are aware you can buy eBooks from places that Amazon, right?

                        Have a look at https://bookshop.org/ebooks
                        You can buy books/eBooks and support local bookstores that aren't Barnes & Nobles or Amazon.

                        I'd suggest you download/archive your Kindle books and then buy your eBooks from elsewhere. You can still load those onto your Kindle.

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                        Does that provide epub when baught? Or does it lock you in with their DRM app?

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                          I got a secondhand Kobo on eBay for less than $100, almost in new condition (the seller just forgot to include the charging cable, but luckily I had plenty of spare micro-USB cables). It's a 2018 model, but it has 8 GB of storage, plenty for most people, and a nice 6" 300 PPI screen with warm light and dark mode. It's more than sufficient.

                          Point being, alternatives are out there.

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                          There's also the old Samsung Tab tablets I found that would do pretty decent job as well, those are around the same price range too, like the A10 and the A8's

                          And looking into the kobo clara series it does look like those are about 120-130 second hand currently so not as bad

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                            Where the hell are you buying books that they cost 50 lol

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                            im not from the us. they can cost 50-150 bucks or more here, no idea how much it costs for you.

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                              TL;DR: get a 2nd hand reMarkable, PineNote, Bookeen, etc…

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                              Easier said than done. Had a quick search. In 45km of my home there is not one reMarkable, PineNone or Bookeen. There is 2 kobos. And around 200 kindles. Kindes are starting at 5 bucks for ones that look a little beat up. Kobos are 80 bucks. You can still avoid buying most books from amazon. Obviously not all. Even owning Kobo there are some books you end up buying from Amazon. They have the largest foreign language library. There are thousands of popular books which you cannot get in a foreign language anywhere else these days. And you have to acknowledge that most people in the world are not reading books in English.

                              Sometimes you can get a solid deal. If youre super patient or lucky. But the 2nd hand market will generally always follow the market distribution of retail.

                              So long as kindle is domninating. 2nd hand users are gonna be heavily pressured into buying kindle.

                              I wholeheartedly agree that we shouldnt support amazon and i do think they are making kindles a pain.

                              But i dont think you can expect people to just find 2nd hand alternatives like what you listed. Especially when you consider the demographic of people shopping for eraders.

                              This is why i find these kinds of comment chains. We all love to vote with our money, but its not that simple for a lot of people. Maybe instead of this "you get what you deserve" attitude we could put more energy towards promoting the jailbreaks and trying to make those as accessible as possible for your chineese grandma to be able to do it herself on her Windows Vista.

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                                On February 26th, Kindle customers will lose the ability to download eBook purchases directly to their PC. If you want to switch to a rival eReader brand in the future, I suggest that you use the soon-to-be discontinued "Download and Transfer via USB" feature to archive your Kindle library.

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                                I use a library app called Libby to read non torrented books. But I’m not sure if it’s available on the kindle. It’s good to support your local library, even if it’s only digitally

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                                • robotzap10000@feddit.nlR [email protected]

                                  I just went to pine64.org and I still see the PineNote community version being out of stock on the EU store. Is it available elsewhere?

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                                  Ahh, the regular store has it listed in stock, not the EU. Don't know if they stock it anywhere else unless someone is reselling.

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                                    Does that provide epub when baught? Or does it lock you in with their DRM app?

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                                    I thought you could load bookshop.org eBookd onto a Kindle, but it seems they have their own DRM and you need to use their own app...

                                    Some of their books are DRM free, but not all. I thought they all were, but it turns out I was wrong.

                                    So... maybe even bookshop.org isn't the best option for Kindles.

                                    I guess there really is only one option left...

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                                      I use a library app called Libby to read non torrented books. But I’m not sure if it’s available on the kindle. It’s good to support your local library, even if it’s only digitally

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                                      Libby is able to sync with your kindle, and then you just choose "send to Kindle" on your phone when checking a book out and the book will appear in your Kindle library.

                                      https://help.libbyapp.com/en-us/6017.htm

                                      If you have a Kindle, this is 100% the best way to read books.

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                                        i buy most ebooks from a small local bookstore. for the rest there's still zlib

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                                        Are you buying ebooks in a physical store? How does that work?

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                                        • generic_computers@lemmy.zipG [email protected]

                                          To all the people who are saying "I'll just pirate books," you are aware you can buy eBooks from places that Amazon, right?

                                          Have a look at https://bookshop.org/ebooks
                                          You can buy books/eBooks and support local bookstores that aren't Barnes & Nobles or Amazon.

                                          I'd suggest you download/archive your Kindle books and then buy your eBooks from elsewhere. You can still load those onto your Kindle.

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                                          #158

                                          I hear you saying that, but the books I want to buy are never on those sites.

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