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Kindle Is Making It Harder to Switch to Rival eReader Brands.

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  • H [email protected]

    I am sorry, what?

    Turn on PC or phone. Download ebook from torrent site. Enjoy.

    It's not difficult to switch?

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    Try explaining how to do that to your non-techie relatives, especially the older ones who like reading. Yes, this makes is more difficult to switch.

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      It is very easy to remove DRM from kindle Books.

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      i keep getting mixed msgs on this (then again, I could be misinterpreting) but it sounds like you can still download the ebook to your kindle (it will be in .kfx format), but if you plug the kindle into the computer and copy the .kfx file to it, that you should then be able to import it into calibre on your computer and the kfx plugin should strip the DRM.

      i haven't tested this to be sure yet (my kindle library is already downloaded and i've just been buying ebooks from Kobo since the Amazon announcement)

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        i keep getting mixed msgs on this (then again, I could be misinterpreting) but it sounds like you can still download the ebook to your kindle (it will be in .kfx format), but if you plug the kindle into the computer and copy the .kfx file to it, that you should then be able to import it into calibre on your computer and the kfx plugin should strip the DRM.

        i haven't tested this to be sure yet (my kindle library is already downloaded and i've just been buying ebooks from Kobo since the Amazon announcement)

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        https://itc.ua/en/news/amazon-has-canceled-the-feature-that-allowed-piracy-kindle-books-now-without-downloading-to-pc/

        Starting February 26, 2025, the option «Download and transfer via USB» will no longer be available. You can still send Kindle books to Wi-Fi enabled devices by selecting the «Deliver or remove from device» option.»

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        • R [email protected]

          Undernet and #bookz for me somehow turned out to be easier than more popular styles of piracy.

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          #bookz is fantastic!

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            https://itc.ua/en/news/amazon-has-canceled-the-feature-that-allowed-piracy-kindle-books-now-without-downloading-to-pc/

            Starting February 26, 2025, the option «Download and transfer via USB» will no longer be available. You can still send Kindle books to Wi-Fi enabled devices by selecting the «Deliver or remove from device» option.»

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            That's where I'm getting conflicting info: I understand you won't be able to "download and transfer via USB" from the Amazon website but when you download a book from the Kindle over wifi it's still a file on your kindle that can be browsed to if you connect your Kindle to a computer via USB

            Then you copy that downloaded ebook (.kfx) to your computer and import into Calibre and use the Kindle plugin that strips DRM from .kfx files.

            I'm going to try that today and see if it actually works...

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              #138

              I'd love to see them put that on the big black dildo I purchase each year. Try me!

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              • S [email protected]

                That's where I'm getting conflicting info: I understand you won't be able to "download and transfer via USB" from the Amazon website but when you download a book from the Kindle over wifi it's still a file on your kindle that can be browsed to if you connect your Kindle to a computer via USB

                Then you copy that downloaded ebook (.kfx) to your computer and import into Calibre and use the Kindle plugin that strips DRM from .kfx files.

                I'm going to try that today and see if it actually works...

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                #139

                It is pretty obvious why they are doing this though, but it also means you don't own them, you are renting them.

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                • C [email protected]

                  On February 26th, Kindle customers will lose the ability to download eBook purchases directly to their PC. If you want to switch to a rival eReader brand in the future, I suggest that you use the soon-to-be discontinued "Download and Transfer via USB" feature to archive your Kindle library.

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                  In the meantime, hackers have just released a new jailbreak and made it a more open platform than ever :^)

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                  • H [email protected]

                    I am sorry, what?

                    Turn on PC or phone. Download ebook from torrent site. Enjoy.

                    It's not difficult to switch?

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                    #141

                    Oddly enough, pirated ebooks are a malware minefield. And hard to find.

                    That said, I have about 8000.

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                    • pika@sh.itjust.worksP [email protected]

                      unfortunately though, due to the same issues there isn't a very large second hand market of those either. Like the cheapest remarkable second hand I could find was still 300$ and the cheapest pine note was 270$ for preowns.

                      when you compare it to the kindle which has preowns starting at 40$ it's a hard buy

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                      I got a secondhand Kobo on eBay for less than $100, almost in new condition (the seller just forgot to include the charging cable, but luckily I had plenty of spare micro-USB cables). It's a 2018 model, but it has 8 GB of storage, plenty for most people, and a nice 6" 300 PPI screen with warm light and dark mode. It's more than sufficient.

                      Point being, alternatives are out there.

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                        On February 26th, Kindle customers will lose the ability to download eBook purchases directly to their PC. If you want to switch to a rival eReader brand in the future, I suggest that you use the soon-to-be discontinued "Download and Transfer via USB" feature to archive your Kindle library.

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                        i buy most ebooks from a small local bookstore. for the rest there's still zlib

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                        • T [email protected]

                          I'd love to see them put that on the big black dildo I purchase each year. Try me!

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                          Lol

                          sorry vibrating/heating function locked until daily dues are paid.

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                            On February 26th, Kindle customers will lose the ability to download eBook purchases directly to their PC. If you want to switch to a rival eReader brand in the future, I suggest that you use the soon-to-be discontinued "Download and Transfer via USB" feature to archive your Kindle library.

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                            That was amusingly well timed:

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                            • jzzvid@lemmy.blahaj.zoneJ [email protected]

                              I love how hackable Kobos are. I put KOReader on mine and it's honestly just the best experience I could ask for.

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                              That and the upgradeable storage... as soon as I can figure out how to solve my partition issues.

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                                On February 26th, Kindle customers will lose the ability to download eBook purchases directly to their PC. If you want to switch to a rival eReader brand in the future, I suggest that you use the soon-to-be discontinued "Download and Transfer via USB" feature to archive your Kindle library.

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                                To all the people who are saying "I'll just pirate books," you are aware you can buy eBooks from places that Amazon, right?

                                Have a look at https://bookshop.org/ebooks
                                You can buy books/eBooks and support local bookstores that aren't Barnes & Nobles or Amazon.

                                I'd suggest you download/archive your Kindle books and then buy your eBooks from elsewhere. You can still load those onto your Kindle.

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                                • T [email protected]

                                  It is pretty obvious why they are doing this though, but it also means you don't own them, you are renting them.

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                                  no doubt

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                                  • generic_computers@lemmy.zipG [email protected]

                                    To all the people who are saying "I'll just pirate books," you are aware you can buy eBooks from places that Amazon, right?

                                    Have a look at https://bookshop.org/ebooks
                                    You can buy books/eBooks and support local bookstores that aren't Barnes & Nobles or Amazon.

                                    I'd suggest you download/archive your Kindle books and then buy your eBooks from elsewhere. You can still load those onto your Kindle.

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                                    Does that provide epub when baught? Or does it lock you in with their DRM app?

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                                      I got a secondhand Kobo on eBay for less than $100, almost in new condition (the seller just forgot to include the charging cable, but luckily I had plenty of spare micro-USB cables). It's a 2018 model, but it has 8 GB of storage, plenty for most people, and a nice 6" 300 PPI screen with warm light and dark mode. It's more than sufficient.

                                      Point being, alternatives are out there.

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                                      There's also the old Samsung Tab tablets I found that would do pretty decent job as well, those are around the same price range too, like the A10 and the A8's

                                      And looking into the kobo clara series it does look like those are about 120-130 second hand currently so not as bad

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                                      • F [email protected]

                                        Where the hell are you buying books that they cost 50 lol

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                                        im not from the us. they can cost 50-150 bucks or more here, no idea how much it costs for you.

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                                        • U [email protected]

                                          TL;DR: get a 2nd hand reMarkable, PineNote, Bookeen, etc…

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                                          Easier said than done. Had a quick search. In 45km of my home there is not one reMarkable, PineNone or Bookeen. There is 2 kobos. And around 200 kindles. Kindes are starting at 5 bucks for ones that look a little beat up. Kobos are 80 bucks. You can still avoid buying most books from amazon. Obviously not all. Even owning Kobo there are some books you end up buying from Amazon. They have the largest foreign language library. There are thousands of popular books which you cannot get in a foreign language anywhere else these days. And you have to acknowledge that most people in the world are not reading books in English.

                                          Sometimes you can get a solid deal. If youre super patient or lucky. But the 2nd hand market will generally always follow the market distribution of retail.

                                          So long as kindle is domninating. 2nd hand users are gonna be heavily pressured into buying kindle.

                                          I wholeheartedly agree that we shouldnt support amazon and i do think they are making kindles a pain.

                                          But i dont think you can expect people to just find 2nd hand alternatives like what you listed. Especially when you consider the demographic of people shopping for eraders.

                                          This is why i find these kinds of comment chains. We all love to vote with our money, but its not that simple for a lot of people. Maybe instead of this "you get what you deserve" attitude we could put more energy towards promoting the jailbreaks and trying to make those as accessible as possible for your chineese grandma to be able to do it herself on her Windows Vista.

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