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Elon Musk’s X blocks links to Signal, the encrypted messaging service

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  • dsilverz@friendica.worldD [email protected]

    @cyrano The "problem" (actually, the feature) with those censorship algorithms is that they rely a lot on the "exact contents" of the message ("Scunthorpe Problem"), so X is probably programmed to detect the Signal's domain and block due to the presence of such link (similar to how Facebook was/is blocking links to the largest PixelFed instances, and then they also decided to block links to DistroWatch and official websites from various Linux distros), so it's not programmed (yet) to censor just the "hexadecimal/base64/whatever" portion of the link alone. And there's where Tox could shine: a handle is literally a hexadecimal sequence, without Tox's domains, without URI Schemas, just a bunch of digits and letters from A to F.

    I don't know why Tox isn't mentioned as a "instant messaging platform for whistleblowers": it got Onion (Tor) tunneling possibility (as well as tunneling it through I2P outproxies because it actually accepts any kind of SOCKS5 proxy), it's registration-less (even Matrix needs registration) so it's effectively anonymous IMO.

    SimpleX seems to be that, too, although I didn't have the opportunity to use it more than I used Tox. But from the little I've used it, it's similar to Signal in the sense that it's a link (and a large link) and not simply a hash/hex sequence.

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    Tox is nice.

    The typical pattern over here: if someone uses Signal, you guess they're some military type (wants things to be secure, but wants it easy). If someone uses Tox, you guess they're some hacker / anarchist type (wants things to be secure, but also anonymizable, even if it's a bit harder).

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      I would really like to know who is using 'X' now ? I mean apart from Musk and his bot army

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        I would really like to know who is using 'X' now ? I mean apart from Musk and his bot army

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        A bunch of undecided voter types that pay zero attention to anything that isn’t their hobbies.

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          I would really like to know who is using 'X' now ? I mean apart from Musk and his bot army

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          Unfortunately, a lot of official government services and representatives are still using it. I saw someone reference a Twitter post about that Canadian plane crash, for instance.

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            I would really like to know who is using 'X' now ? I mean apart from Musk and his bot army

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            A lot of people unfortunately. Specially people outside the US, I think mastodon is ready for people to switch, but nobody does, the most they do is switch to bluesky

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              My country doesn't and hopefully others will follow.

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              I hope so too, twitter is awful.

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                It's not easy to leave WhatsApp. I've transitioned to Signal a month ago and lost contact with a lot of people. My friends and family think I'm going crazy for attitudes like these. "You can't change the world on your own".. like that was the plan 😅

                Thanks Musk, that was the motivation I needed to keep away from WhatsApp.

                Obviously not a X/Twitter user, I'm not a fkin idiot.

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                  It's not easy to leave WhatsApp. I've transitioned to Signal a month ago and lost contact with a lot of people. My friends and family think I'm going crazy for attitudes like these. "You can't change the world on your own".. like that was the plan 😅

                  Thanks Musk, that was the motivation I needed to keep away from WhatsApp.

                  Obviously not a X/Twitter user, I'm not a fkin idiot.

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                  You can't change the world if you don't try at all. What a braindead take..

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                    It's not easy to leave WhatsApp. I've transitioned to Signal a month ago and lost contact with a lot of people. My friends and family think I'm going crazy for attitudes like these. "You can't change the world on your own".. like that was the plan 😅

                    Thanks Musk, that was the motivation I needed to keep away from WhatsApp.

                    Obviously not a X/Twitter user, I'm not a fkin idiot.

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                    Leaving is never really an option. But running the two apps side by side still works.

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                      Leaving is never really an option. But running the two apps side by side still works.

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                      It varies, I guess. Some people might not be able to leave due to their job for example.

                      I left, it's an option for me. And I'm not coming back, I don't want to admit defeat.

                      I'm in an island now, it's annoying how these companies penetrated our lives.

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                        It's not easy to leave WhatsApp. I've transitioned to Signal a month ago and lost contact with a lot of people. My friends and family think I'm going crazy for attitudes like these. "You can't change the world on your own".. like that was the plan 😅

                        Thanks Musk, that was the motivation I needed to keep away from WhatsApp.

                        Obviously not a X/Twitter user, I'm not a fkin idiot.

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                        "You can check out any time you like... But you can never leeeave."

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                          It varies, I guess. Some people might not be able to leave due to their job for example.

                          I left, it's an option for me. And I'm not coming back, I don't want to admit defeat.

                          I'm in an island now, it's annoying how these companies penetrated our lives.

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                          What about using Matrix?

                          I'm pretty sure that you can bridge Matrix with WhatsApp.

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                          • teknevra@lemmy.blahaj.zoneT [email protected]

                            What about using Matrix?

                            I'm pretty sure that you can bridge Matrix with WhatsApp.

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                            I'm check that out. Thanks!

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                              Been using Signal for years. Love it.

                              Makes sense than an anti-free speech dipshit like Elon Musk would oppose it.

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                                I would really like to know who is using 'X' now ? I mean apart from Musk and his bot army

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                                Racists and other easily influenced weak-minded individuals.

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                                  I don't think it is a good idea to block twitter completely. Some countries use twitter for official announcements, including emergency warning.

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                                  It's always a good idea to block racist platforms lorded over by a troll who will delete comments that oppose him.

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                                    You can't change the world if you don't try at all. What a braindead take..

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                                    And they wouldn't be alone if their family came with them

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                                      And they wouldn't be alone if their family came with them

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                                      Literally this

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                                        Supposedly they're unblocked again, but there's been no explanation from Xitter about the issue. Definitely seems suspicious that this happened while DOGE is having trouble with whistleblowers using Signal, though.

                                        https://gizmodo.com/x-briefly-blocked-then-unblocked-signal-links-as-federal-workers-seek-security-2000564966

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                                          Twitter should have been regulated as a common carrier and one rich asshole shouldn’t have been allowed to buy it, regardless of their politics

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