Israeli soldiers used 80-year-old Gazan as human shield, then killed him.
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Within a German context that particular actually rather means death of the national idea, cf. Slime's Deutschland muss sterben, "Germany must die", which, as correctly recognised by the constitutional court, expresses a counterpoint to the Prussian/Nazi militaristic parole "We must die, so Germany may live". The song, taking up sentiment that the court traces back to at least 1844, turns that around into "Germany must die so we may live", reaffirming individual (and regional) freedom in the face of an encroaching normative force of "Germanness".
You don't often see a constitutional court getting into analysis of a punk song but when it happens, well, it's glorious. And Nazis loathe that sentiment. Two years ago the Bundestag had a debate about regional and minority languages, the AfD was incapable of finding a single parliamentarian of theirs who spoke any. The thing is that while they're the ones shouting loudest about "protecting German culture", they're the last ones actually valuing any culture from anywhere in Germany -- they want to replace everything with their own ideas, and German nationalism has been like that since pretty much forever. So, yes, Germany must die.
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I really don't care how you take my opposition to a genocidal state. The crimes of Israel demand a much stronger international response than they are getting. You can cry about my tone but I think strong language is warranted. Hear me again: I do not want all "Israelis" killed. I want the state of "Israel" itself destroyed.
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All I'm saying is that you should say what you mean then (as you did in this reply), and not what can very easily be used against you.
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You do you, I'll do me.
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It was less "the ones responsible" and more "appropriate response".
The appropriate response to 1,200 deaths is not to kill between 50,000 and 70,000 innocent civilians and state on multiple occasions "there are no innocent Palestinians".
You don't respond to war crimes with even bigger war crimes.
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That's the spirit.
Don't let these people take away our teeth and claws.
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This comment shouldn't have been censored.
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Yeah, good point
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Remember this and the many other examples when they try to call themselves "the most moral army in the world".
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Very informative, thank you.
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I agree that there is a genocide going on, I'm just pointing out that it is a bit hypocritical to consider "Death to Israel" as being ok while any other "Death to X" being a call for violence.
Israel has as much right to exist than Palestine. And those who uses violence to further their agenda should be stopped at all cost, no matter the side they are on.
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No, absolutely not. Palestinians have a right to violent struggle, as an occupied and oppressed people. That is a defensive and liberatory struggle. Israel's violence is that of genocide and colonialism.
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at this point they can't even claim moral superiority over Nazis let alone a world wide rank.
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are you sure you are not the trust worthy source?
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So... Just point or clarity.... They used him as a human shield then killed him because he survived being a human shield or did being a human shield kill him but later?
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Honestly no
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Let me tweak that for you so you can maybe understand what's going on here:
"He can say death to Nazi Germany but if you say the same sentence with Poland you’re banned"
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The group that used him as a human shield didn't kill him directly.
They sent him and his wife south, because the area they were found in was considered evacuated.When an area is considered evacuated every non-IDF person is shot on sight.
They knew it, and "forgot" to update over the radio about the elderly couple that will pass through.
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This news article is both disturbing and interesting.
The people that alerted the news agency about the event are soldiers that were there.
The only other witnesses are dead.It means there is a conflict of values inside IDF.
I would hazzard a guess that their commander ordered it and is part of the religous-Zionism movement. It's a newish subset of zionism that is very similar to Nazism. Only difference is who they want to kill (the list also includes non-religous Jews).
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This stuff is hardly new. There is testimonies of former Israeli soldiers from 30 and 40 years ago, where they talked about randomly murdering Civilians or beating children into disability for fun and to normalize the dehumanization and annihilation of Palestinians.
It was actively encouraged by leading officers to commit such atrocities, so that the lower ranks are eased into it and can say they were merely following the example of leading officers w.o. there being a paper trail of formal commands.
Zionism has been a Fascist movement for many decades.
