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US presented Ukraine with a document to access minerals but offered almost nothing

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    thats why the billionaires figured out if your worn down and tired you arnt willing to engage in class war.

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      additionally this allows TRUMP To absolve russia of its crimes well.

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        as soon as you see a whole essay , i would just ignore it.

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          You only offer such a one sided bad faith deal if you are truly an idiot or if the whole point is to make a show of them refusing the deal. Israel does this to Palestinians all the time for makreting purposes, as another example. The problem with trump is that we dont know if he is truly that stupid or if he has a separate malign intent in doing this. My money is on malign intent.

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            That last part I fully agree with but very obviously enriching already very rich people at the cost of your child's life (versus for example keeping oil prices low for the average Joe hidden behind a war of being the good guy aka gulf war 1).

            I just don't see it happening. I can't see the average US soldier and especially their parents rallying around "they broke our contract!".

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              I mean.... How many bags of onions are we talking here?

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                They are going to have to. But the western rules based order is as sickly there as it is everywhere else. Inconvenient laws are just ignored these days by European governments too, so it appears to be just a matter of time. (I hope I'm wrong, for what thats worth)

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                  Europe should support China’s ambition on Taiwan

                  lol. wow. I'm speechless. But I think you were snarking, so uh.

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                    He's doing a lot of absolving other countries of their crimes lately.

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                      One. Absolute best offer.

                      Ok, ok. One bag potatoes too.

                      Ladas only for early sign ups.

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                        workaholics? hrm.

                        I know a lot of very rich people (I am very not rich). Most of them dont work very hard at all-- they arent workaholics. A small handfull of them worked to some degree when were younger, but mostly they were lucky in the dotcom boom. When you hit a big break like selling your company, your pot of money just starts making more of itself and you can start strutting around like you earned every cent. They uniformly become awful people as well. Fucking each others wives, making truly awful children, enjoying throwing their weight around while pretending to be humble. Its entirely predictable and an obvious pattern. Human nature I think.

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                          i now realize what i wrote was nonsensical since i really don't want Europe to support China's ambition on Taiwan, yet, i would like if Europe could do "tit for tat" on USA's stupid take on Ukraine that is exposing Europe to russia's military madness.
                          "tit for tat +" is demonstrably the best strategy to prevent escalation of conflicts and push for peace.

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                            That was another study. In that, they let people play Monopoly but gave one player an obvious advantage. Double money when passing start, that kind of thing. Of course they won, but when asked why they won they would invariable boast how much better they were than the rest and not mention their advantage. The same thing happens with getting lucky in dot com boom or born wealthy and they see it as just being better.

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                              So, basically give up being raped by the Russians to being exploited by the Americans. What a good deal, great deal, maybe the best deal in the history of deals!

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                                I mean, what are they supposed to offer? Ukraine needs to pay its debt.

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                                  After Russia broke the agreement and attacked Ukraine, the US should have stepped in immediately and this entire was would have been prevented. I mean back in 2014 when the Russians took Crimea.

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                                    They let you do it when you're famous dontchaknow? Or so I've heard.

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