Trump says Ukraine 'should have never started it' in comments about war with Russia
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It wasn’t a lie. I believe what the negotiator said in his interview. He’s telling the truth and Zelensky is lying.
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Sic semper tyrannis.
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He'd have a pretty long runway to make his lack of charisma not matter.
He's likely the key figure in drafting a lot of the executive orders that Trump is rubber stamping. Trump and Musk get a lot of the attention, but Vance is more quietly behind a lot of the stuff, happy to let Trump get the credit for Vance's and Trump's contributions.
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Nonsense. It’s these sort of blanket statements that undermine a clear understanding of what each side wants. Putin wanted Ukraine to remain neutral and not join NATO, because the head of NATO, the United States was talking about unprovoked nuclear first strikes and all sorts of crazy things. Zelensky himself publicly floated the idea of Ukraine obtaining nukes. If your choice is between going to war and having a country on your border point nukes at you, then you might go to war.
In fact. The United States claimed Iraq (a country far away from itself) was trying to obtain nukes and invaded it in the 2000s, and that was while the leaders of Iraq were refuting the claim (and the Iraqis were telling the truth).
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RIP Trevor Moore
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Zelensky says it isn't true, Johnson says it isn't true, but some other random guy says it and you believe it. That's pretty sad.
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Right. And all the talks about reforming the USSR are probably just a diversion.
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Pretty sure he was already a puppet, that was just the rimming of the ring.
EDIT: Speaking of which, does anyone know if Marina Gross is still actually alive? I get not wanting media attention etc, but she seems like a ghost for someone that translates for world leaders.
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And Trump is just repeating what his master Putin told him to say.
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The head negotiator is not some random guy. Lmao
This is such obvious cope.
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Why is he telling the truth but everyone else is lying?
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That’s what the United States and NATO countries claim Putin wants, and which he has refuted. That makes reforming the USSR about as believable as Iraqi nukes.
If you want to win me over and have me believe you, then my advice would be to go to Iraq and don’t come back until you find those nukes. My advice is that when you go, remember to avoid packing light, because you’re gonna be there a while.
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He’s telling the truth because he didn’t do anything wrong.
Zelensky is lying to avoid admitting his mistake.
The British are lying because they always lie. Boris Johnson isn’t exactly known as an honest man, but admitting they played the Ukrainians would be a pretty terrible mistake when the other European countries want the fighting to continue.
Trump is telling the truth because he didn’t have any say at the time and doesn’t mind saying the quiet part out loud and throwing Zelensky’s bad decisions in his face.
Putin is telling the truth because the Russians have had to put quite a bit of resources into fighting this war when it could’ve ended earlier.
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Trump is telling the truth
Putin is telling the truth
This is all I needed to see to know that you are not a serious person.
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The alternative is:
Boris Johnson is telling the truth.
Ukraine’s top negotiator is lying for no reason.
Remember, the interview was in late 2023. It’s been over a year since the world found out. No point in lying unless you’re responsible for this mistake in some way.
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With a mortar launcher
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"9/11 would not have happened if America kept out of the Middle East" ahh energy
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One of you should learn to shoot straight.
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I agree tbh, whole thing was provoking Russia by US
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It was literally a surprise invasion that half the EU didn't even believe was gonna happen and Russia denied was happening. How the fuck are you supposed to negotiate a peace to avoid a surprise invasion that Russia vehemently denied was gonna happen?
What the actual fuck is this bullshit?
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