New poll says 27% of Canadians view the United States as an 'enemy' country
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30% of people haven't been following the news apparently.
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We just cancelled our trip to Disney, which is sad, but I see there are some other locations in Tokyo or Paris, so might look at going there for a middle ground.
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Those 30% are ether delusional or being polite.
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That seems like a bit of an unnecessarily hostile response to a joke comment.
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Riiiight, because intelligent, hardworking people won't want to bail too.
Hope you guys at least accept enlistees
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US citizen here and I'm surprised that 27% isn't much higher.
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It's a problem with polls, they don't give enough options and many times and the few options they give mean different to different people. If the US were an enemy I'd be too busy trying to figure out how to blow shit up in the US to have this conversation. That's what I consider the word enemy to mean. We're not there yet.
I'd classify the US as an adversary though. A country I'm opposing by non-violent means.
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the 30% who said they still consider the US an ally obviously don't read the news
Or they do, and they like what they see. I'm sure there are a few Canadians who would be fine with being the 51st state. -
US citizen here... can I bump up that number for them please? I'll work and pay taxes without complaining about them.
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I don’t care if you’re intelligent and hardworking, and frankly if that’s what you think I have a problem with I super don’t want you anywhere north of our borders.
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So, you think we all are the worst of us?
Given the situation, I can't judge.
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The reason you're getting downvoted is it's a problem even here in the country. It's the "Why aren't you doing anything about it?" to all of us.
In the case of me, I live 1000 miles away from the seat of power, our representatives actively are dismantling things we voted for, not national I'm talking, state level, because we're outright surrounded by the people who are actively cheering for this. (and the example of the voting against, state voted to get rid of the most strict abortion law in the country, legalizing it... and now the representatives on state level are trying to get a pregnancy registry "to try to stop preventable abortions." while the state rep at national level is trying to get a national abortion ban going. This is one of many many many things in the state by itself. Hell, I just learned the state just gained police control to the other city after they managed to vote that out.)
I didn't downvote, but I want you to read "What are you going to do about it?" out loud. Hell, you yourself said it's the apathy. But the fuck am I going to do? Show up and wave a sign at the people who already have shown they couldn't give a flying shit about our opinions? Or be there when the fight starts and be a martyr. The second option the best case scenario is getting to be like Tank Man, but honestly demographics I'd be one of the many forgotten in the Tiananmen Square Massacre. And that's what it's going to look like, because this administration you better believe is looking for an opportunity to go full martial law, and if we don't do it, their brownshirts will for them.
So the best I can fucking do is stock up, prepare, keep my head down, keep in contact with the people who are in the same boat as I am being in effectively enemy territory and use the privilege I have of looking like a standard white conservative to see how many I can keep safe when being that demographic is important.
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I mean, Canada might but given that I've of the issues is being in the crosshairs for annexation with "the largest land border" between us... how safe is it going to be?
Trump's handing Ukraine and Europe to Russia while planning his own play from their book.
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Also apparently told Europe that they're pulling out of there unless they accept the deal for Ukraine's surrender...
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It’s funny, the French are so often made fun of for being cowards but if their government does anything to try to strip their rights the whole fucking place throws a well deserved fit. The US mostly just sits on their fucking hands with the BLM protests being the only significant country-wide movement in a long time.
“We couldn’t”—fuck off, ya’ll didn’t even try. The slightest inconvenience and the country folds, and that’s even if any of you are paying any attention to the news at all. Too many of you fools don’t even know what the fuck is going on; at least Fox viewers are trying to keep up with politics(badly, but they’re doing it).
Get your fuckasses outside and do something that isn’t passing blame and staying home.
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I think that the last people I want here in Canada are the ones who run from their problems before even trying to protect their country from a hostile takeover. I don’t think you’re all the worst, I think that your best is rare and that most of you are not nearly as great as you think you are.
We have enough of that shit here and don’t need even more of that dead-end attitude diluting anything good we actually do have. Hell, I’m not even as active as I probably should be, but then again I’m not dealing with a fascist potential dictator currently trying to overthrow longtime allies.
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You should know that until you do renounce your citizenship, you'll have to pay taxes in the US even if you live in another country. AFAIK only 2 countries in the world still use citizenship-based taxation: USA and Eritrea.
Also, if you ever do try to renounce your citizenship, it's much more difficult than you might think. The people I know who have done it had to pay tens of thousands of dollars to complete the process, despite being up to date on their taxes and not being at all rich.
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I wonder how things will change in the next few months.
It seems to me it would be such an obvious thing for Canadian companies to change their packaging to prominently feature Canadian flags, but that takes time. Until then, it's still a bit difficult to know which products are Canadian vs. American vs. made somewhere else.
There's a small chance that Trump will back down and try to play nice with Canadians. But, I doubt it. So, I don't think Canadians are going to start changing their mind on buying US products any time soon.
I wonder if retailers will make it easy too. They generally try to stay out of politics and don't want to alienate anybody. But, if anger about the US continues, people might expect retailers to make it easier to buy Canadian and easier to avoid US products.
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What part of the country already felt hostile? The South or some flyover state?
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Yep. I'm a cishet white dude but even just as an atheist I've never been a "real" American in the eyes of far too many. And now the Christofascists are seizing control.
