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Amazon is changing what is written in books

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  • S [email protected]

    The reality is that Amazon is the most convenient way to buy a lot of things, and as a result, people will put up with a lot of bullshit.

    I genuinely try to buy things locally before I start looking online. It's increasingly difficult even for common items. The big box stores are shifting to branded only retailers. Where I used to be able to go to any hardware store and find a similar spread of items available, Lowe's, home Depot and Menards all offer their own lines of tools to varrying degrees. Menards is the worst about it, but they're all doing it.

    Less common items are being phased out in stores, going to online order only. Where in the past you'd have your choice of just about any brand of thing you could think of in any store in any major town, now you're lucky to find certain things at all. And if I'm going to have to order it online anyway, Amazon has the best return policy.

    Hobby or specialty items are easily marked up 300% locally. And you have to go to that specific store, which may require a fucking membership just to get an only marginally hyper inflated price. It's fine if it's one thing I need right now but I'm not going to pay for the privilege of shopping at a hobby shop. I'm at Costco every week and I'm salty about that membership. Jack Tanner's Leather Emporium isn't even getting my email address.

    And frequently on Amazon it's not just the same thing, it's the exact same fucking product. Likely shipped to the hobby shop from Amazon. I get that these guys need to make a living, but bro, have a little respect for modern consumers. I'll pay a premium, I'm not signing up for anything and I'm not paying triple the price.

    And even if you are resolved to buy online, and you try to go to the branded website to buy the specialty thing, Amazon has it, they have free shipping, and they'll get it to you tomorrow. But if you go to Rockler's website they're going to charge you 10-20 dollars to ship a single item, unless you spend more money, and it'll take two to three weeks to get to you.

    I'm sorry, Amazon fucking won. Even if I say I'm willing to eat the cost, pay the shipping, pay a premium, and I'm willing to wait for the stuff I order, I'll even make an account at every shady ass website I want to order from and give all of them my payment information, regardless of how much I trust their security, because I know Amazon is a horrifically evil company, I'm a drop in the fucking bucket. So are you and anyone reading this.

    It's just too fucking convenient. Too many competitors are cutting off the tail to try to keep up. They've won

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    Except we are talking about ebooks and none of what you've said applies to them. Amazon did not win in the ebooks department, as there are many other better platforms out there that don't fuck their people.

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    • G [email protected]

      You're thinking like a techy, put yourself in the layman's shoes.

      The Kindle was a pretty big deal as the first widespread e-reader. My tech-challenged mom got one and she loves how easy it is to get a book and have it there.

      Given that this change won't really affect her, she probably doesn't care. There's a lot more people like my mom than you or I.

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      And your mother isn't complaining about it, which is not the audience I'm talking to. My whole issue is with those who choose amazon then complain about their practices. Especially in ebooks, there is actually no excuse for anyone to use amazon anymore. I understand some people have already bought many books from them and don't want to lose their books, but at least protest them not buying more books from them.

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        You can even buy books directly from publishers. Recently I wanted a hardback copy of a book and it was out of stock, backordered, or absurdly high priced on all the big popular online places. Ended up ordering it for MSRP from Penguin Random House direct.

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        Dude, literally. Lmao. I once had an author himself give me a link to his book to buy it. The freaking other himself. For our older parents and non-techy people, I understand using and sticking to amazon, they most likely won't even notice any of Amazon's bad practices, but young folks who are techy? Come on, you know better.

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          I’m constantly on the lookout for European alternatives. Are there any EU alternatives to Amazon?

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          Isn't Kobo made by rakuten? And Rakuten mainly operates in Germany? Also, hell get an e-reader with android on it and you can run all kinds of books on it without limiting yourself to just one company. There is even a Linux e-reader called pine note that you can buy.

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          • bilb@lem.monsterB [email protected]

            That's not unlike the experience on my Kobo Elipsa 2e.

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            How is that Elipsa e2? I wanted to get it, but I discovered that it had a low PPI 227 and held off. I have eagle eyes and I hate seeing pixels. lol.. so I got the sage fantastic device, but I want the 10" screen so badly.

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            • C [email protected]

              Mr Stallman needs to be considered from all sides before deciding whether you'll follow his lead. He's not without some toejam.

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              Not sure what that means. He’s not Jesus. There’s no need to worship him! We can take the good and criticize the bad.

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                But lets see the Positive side: Now the Nazis wont have to burn thousands of books, saving tons of co2 in their Plan to take over the world with propaganda. So, yay for the envoirment I guess

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                Soon:

                "Protestors who were planning to publish video evidence of police brutality find the videos mysteriously vanished from their phone"

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                • gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zoneG [email protected]

                  Hell, I'm surprised the publishers aren't up in arms about it.

                  Amazon is changing copyrighted works.

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                  Increasingly more often Amazon is the publisher.

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                  • finishingdutch@lemmy.worldF [email protected]

                    Piracy was, is and remains a service problem, as Gabe Newell of Valve (Steam) once stated. Most people are perfectly content to pay a reasonable price to get access to the things they want. But if you make that impossible, they’ll find other options.

                    Take anime for example: even if you subscribed to every streaming service out there, you still wouldn’t be able to see everything you wanted. Some things aren’t streamable or sold ANYWHERE, or only on a service that’s actively blocked in your region. Which means there is simply no legal way for you at all to get that content.

                    Music on the other hand solved that dilemma. You can use Spotify, YT Music, Apple Music or a host of other options. You pay a flat fee and you can listen to pretty much every song you want, as often as you want. Nobody’s pirating MP3’s these days, because nobody needs to. It’s now more convenient to just stream it.

                    I’d really like to see someone do the same for books. An unlimited digital library that lets you download anything you want for a flat subscription fee. I’d pay 10 bucks a month for that for sure. Because that would make it more convenient than pirating is right now, with a more consistent experience.

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                    ever heard of zlibrary?

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                    • E [email protected]

                      Music is definitely not a solved problem. About 30% of my favorite older tunes aren't available on streaming at all, as I discovered when I tried to find a way to casually share with some friends.

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                      Sure, no platform will have everything. But for me personally, on YouTube Music, I’ve always been able to find what I was looking for. But I’m admittedly not what you’d call a music aficionado.

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                        ever heard of zlibrary?

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                        I am aware of them, yes. It’s not the book download site that I use personally, but you can never have enough options.

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                        • finishingdutch@lemmy.worldF [email protected]

                          I am aware of them, yes. It’s not the book download site that I use personally, but you can never have enough options.

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                          which do you use?

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                          • finishingdutch@lemmy.worldF [email protected]

                            I just buy physicals of the reference books I really want and pirate the digitals of anything else that isn’t sold DRM-free. I WILL own what I bought, whether they like it or not.

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                            I wish I could do the same. I prefer paper books, we have a massive library and mostly read in our language on paper (except uni textbooks, I wouldn't want to buy them and the library doesn't have enough). However, that stopped being feasible when most of my non-fiction reading switched to English. Since English books are mostly not sold locally, I would have gone bankrupt on delivery costs alone. So thanks Libgen for my education.

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                            • finishingdutch@lemmy.worldF [email protected]

                              Sure, no platform will have everything. But for me personally, on YouTube Music, I’ve always been able to find what I was looking for. But I’m admittedly not what you’d call a music aficionado.

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                              Interestingly, I am now going through some album series that are not on Youtube, but are on Spotify. It is frustrating because I can't use Spotify on my phone (browser is incompatible), but I can Youtube, so music discovery is desktop-only. Good thing all of them are on Soulseek, though.

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                              • penquin@lemm.eeP [email protected]

                                How is that Elipsa e2? I wanted to get it, but I discovered that it had a low PPI 227 and held off. I have eagle eyes and I hate seeing pixels. lol.. so I got the sage fantastic device, but I want the 10" screen so badly.

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                                I have not been at all dissatisfied with its clarity. I bet on a LCD or OLED screen the DPI would be noticeable, but not on an e-ink display.

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                                  which do you use?

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                                  I usually use Anna’s Archive or Lib Gen, depending on what’s actually up and working. Anna scrapes Zlib as well as other sources. Usually that’s where I can find the really obscure stuff.

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                                  • L [email protected]

                                    But lets see the Positive side: Now the Nazis wont have to burn thousands of books, saving tons of co2 in their Plan to take over the world with propaganda. So, yay for the envoirment I guess

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                                    Honest question, how is this different from the left doing the same? Take this for example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roald_Dahl_revision_controversy

                                    As an outsider, it seems the USA is currently in a culture war, and neither side minds burning & changing the books they deem offensive?

                                    I'm all for the Trump hate, what's happening there is insane, but the American left wing being bothered by books being changed seems pretty hypocritical seeing recent events....

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                                      Honest question, how is this different from the left doing the same? Take this for example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roald_Dahl_revision_controversy

                                      As an outsider, it seems the USA is currently in a culture war, and neither side minds burning & changing the books they deem offensive?

                                      I'm all for the Trump hate, what's happening there is insane, but the American left wing being bothered by books being changed seems pretty hypocritical seeing recent events....

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                                      The controversy you pointed out is about someone who was writing factually false information and feeding hate against people who should be covered under the freedom of speech. The ban happened during his life, and not years after he died. Therefore his works were not a peace of gone culture, but hate in the present of time.

                                      If I follow your argumentation, that being that you should allow people write false information feeding hate against specific people just living their life in peace, you should be against censoring Hate speech against Lgbtqia+ people too, or the better question would be: where do you draw the line? At Jews? At queer people?

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                                        The controversy you pointed out is about someone who was writing factually false information and feeding hate against people who should be covered under the freedom of speech. The ban happened during his life, and not years after he died. Therefore his works were not a peace of gone culture, but hate in the present of time.

                                        If I follow your argumentation, that being that you should allow people write false information feeding hate against specific people just living their life in peace, you should be against censoring Hate speech against Lgbtqia+ people too, or the better question would be: where do you draw the line? At Jews? At queer people?

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                                        I have honestly no clue what you're trying to say???

                                        If you read the wiki page i linked, it's about changing his books after his death, so not things about when he was still alive? Is also not about a ban? Did you even read the wiki? It literally starts with "Puffin Books, the children's imprint of the British publisher Penguin Books, expurgated various works by British author Roald Dahl in 2023, sparking controversy. "

                                        And you're talking about hate against races, but the wiki talks about removing the word queer (which used to just be a synonym for strange), removing all kinds of gendered language (not sons & daughters, but children, etc....). So rewriting the books to fit your narrative.

                                        My argumentation is simple: the right wing can't change books, but the leftwing can? Both sides seem to be trying to rewrite history, that's all. Whether what's in the books is acceptable or not, who cares. If the book is no longer appropriate, don't read it but complaining about the other side rewriting books seems hypocritical. That's all. You can just not recommend books to readers and suggest more modern alternatives that are more appropriate, or read the old works taking in mind the era they were written in.

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                                          I have honestly no clue what you're trying to say???

                                          If you read the wiki page i linked, it's about changing his books after his death, so not things about when he was still alive? Is also not about a ban? Did you even read the wiki? It literally starts with "Puffin Books, the children's imprint of the British publisher Penguin Books, expurgated various works by British author Roald Dahl in 2023, sparking controversy. "

                                          And you're talking about hate against races, but the wiki talks about removing the word queer (which used to just be a synonym for strange), removing all kinds of gendered language (not sons & daughters, but children, etc....). So rewriting the books to fit your narrative.

                                          My argumentation is simple: the right wing can't change books, but the leftwing can? Both sides seem to be trying to rewrite history, that's all. Whether what's in the books is acceptable or not, who cares. If the book is no longer appropriate, don't read it but complaining about the other side rewriting books seems hypocritical. That's all. You can just not recommend books to readers and suggest more modern alternatives that are more appropriate, or read the old works taking in mind the era they were written in.

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                                          didn't know JK Rowling is into Lemmy now

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