Israel drops leaflets threatening Gazans to 'leave or die'
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Tell me what Biden or Kamala would have done different? Remember all the red lines that functionally did nothing to US policy?
It was under biden that, we estimate because we can't know, that ~500,000 gazans died. It was under biden that we continued to send bombs to israel even as Israel pushed the entire population into a concentration camp next to egypt.
Gaza was already under a dictator. Way to go Biden and Kamala, instead of giving a single fuck about your electorate loudly told you, you sucked the teet of pro-israel donors and it lost the election.
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Hey, how about instead of chastising people for telling biden/kamala they needed to pivot here you look at the DNC that took a campaign strategy of "Well, let's ignore a huge issue because we don't want to lose donor money".
Trump won by unabashedly appealing to his base. Biden/Kamala lost because they ignored their base and chased after Trump's base instead.
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Way to miss the point.
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Stop apologising for genocide.
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How about the deafening silence from the Jewish community.
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What point? That trump allowed the same genocide that biden did? That functionally trump and biden had the same policy for gaza?
Tell me, how would Biden or Kamala have responded to this news? Whispering to someone "Wow, netty sure is an asshole"? Would they have actually even threatened to cut aid? What are current democrats in congress saying about this? Has any non-progressive democrat condemned this?
Yeah, that's the point. One that you are missing. The party didn't listen to it's base and lost an election because of it. Gaza is just as fucked as it would have been under either presidency.
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Okay, I'll spell it out then.
Before the election, there were all sorts of people crowing about the one genocide going on that they could use to get their fascist elected, and now that that very fascist is accelerating that very genocide - fucking crickets.
Those pre-election gEnOcIdE people were being disingenous then, as is evidenced by the deafening silence now.
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Trump has announced today he would not force the people of Gaza out. Bad timing from Israel.
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Still here, Joe Biden started the genocide, trump looks like he's going to finish it.
Not sure if the liberals are much louder in condemning this, judging by the comments here they seem to just want to say "I told you so"
EDIT: I try show some brevity once instead of writing paragraphs and get told I don't know my history, so here's some paragraphs.
Yes Israel has been carrying out a process of slow ethnic cleansing for decades. Biden while in congress along with all the other dems repeatedly backed arms sales to this apartheid state knowing it was going to kill Palestinians. The violence ramped up in 2023 as Israeli settlers committed pogroms against Palestinians, which is part of the reason hamas did oct 7th. During this time Biden did nothing to reign in the Israelis, and instead tried to throw it under the rug to get a deal with the Saudis to normalize relations. Then Oct 7th happened and Israel went on a full onslaught against Gaza, and to a lesser extent the west bank and Lebanon. Biden again did nothing to stop this and continued to give military aid and diplomatic support to Israel. By the end of his administration Gaza was uninhabitable. Now trump seems primed to allow Israel to finish what it started and complete the ethnic cleansing.
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You are literally talking to one. And frankly, you are covering your eyes because you are uncomfortable with the fact that they are STILL protesting the genocide.
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/thousands-across-the-u-s-protest-trump-policies
But go ahead and try to act like they aren't being consistent. Cling to your conspiracy theories rather than recognizing the party needs to change to be responsive to it's voters.
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You're the one talking about Democrats, not me.
How much effort have you put in to voicing your concerns about the Uighurs, Sudanese, Congolese? Or is it just this genocide you don't like?
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*Biden enables genocide
Progressives: that's fucked up, we should stop supporting Israel
Liberals: ackchually its not a genocide because they only killed a quarter of the population, and you should stay quiet about this because it'll just help trump win
*Trump enables genocide
Progressives: that's fucked up, we should stop supporting Israel
Liberals: I told you so, I told you so, I told you so....
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First, yes, I've complained about those.
Second, We aren't funding any of those genocides as a matter of US policy.
Tell me what the US is supposed to do short of invading China, Sudan, or the Congo? The best you could say is more tariffs against china for the Uighurs. For the others we have basically no leverage beyond maybe USAID.
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I feel like this is not functionally different from what they did.
Unreal... Nobody can really question it I guess, since we'll never really know.
But what a bunch of fucking horseshit. Of course it's different. Are you serious?
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Still here, Joe Biden started the genocide
Lol for fuck sake... Are you for real??? Biden started the genocide? You fucking sure about that?
What a joke. Most of these people never even knew of the existence of Palestine prior to 2024. Read a fucking book
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People are very stupid, you see. It really is incredible how much the news is like “hmmm, jury’s out, could really go either way” on shit where there’s essentially everything but Israel saying the word “genocide” but even then…
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I think many people here are missing the real point underneath all of this. All the Americans who are still so delusional they believe democracy in the usa is functioning are the ones blaming voters who’s conscious wont allow them to vote for an obvious controlled opposition party. Here is the reality. Neo liberal democracy is a farce and always has been. You can not have true democracy without economic democracy. What you actually have in that case is class dictatorship.
We have a ratcheting political system. The right moves in and takes power and leverages everything as far right as they can get away with as quickly as possible, meanwhile the center right which masquerades as a “left party” with their milquetoast virtue signaling of waving pride flags and blm signaling while still supporting the main factor that allows racist ideology to flourish within policing agencies, global drug prohibition and the militarized police and surveillance state that has risen from it, while in power they make every excuse not to move the dial to the left and thus the pawl of the ratchet locks and only allows rightward movement.
The 14 traits of fascism are present in both parties. Albeit more prominently so in the maga right but its still there in the center right democrat party. Both sides are owned by the same exact wall street military and prison industry profiteers this is an undisputable fact. The only one of the 14 traits they can claim plausible deniability in regards to is fraudulent elections however there is more than enough evidence to say that the us presidential election is rigged and has been since reagan and maybe even since kenedy considering the deal that was made with the mafia to get JFK in the white house.
Now we have elon musk buying trumps election in broad daylight and star link satellite systems were connected to tabulation machines in multiple precincts but lets ignore the cybersecurity experts who have claimed that there is legitimate evidence the 2024 election was stolen. The only half truth trump may ever have told is that the 2020 election was stolen but he didn't complain when it was rigged in his favor in 2016 because he doesn't give a fuck about election integrity so long as he benefits from it.
It is obvious to anyone paying attention that nothing in the US will change without a revolution. The democrats fight leftward movement at every opportunity. They disenfranchised sanders voters in 2 primaries and forced tired status quo bullshit onto us and blamed us for the dnc leaks sinking Clinton and then called it Russian propaganda. This all goes back to the thirties and the wall street putsch business plot and then nixon, then Reagan killing the fairness in reporting doctrine and bush also ensuring that was not codified into law. Now we have right wing fascist apologia rags masquerading as true unbiased journalism. 90% of the media we consume all owned by 6 major corporations all circularly owned by blackrock, vangaurd state street and blackstone. Democracy in the usa is dead. If you think it’s still functioning you are naive.
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For the others we have basically no leverage beyond maybe USAID.
And who's trying to shut that down? Biden's out, Harris lost. Who's in charge of all three branches of the US federal government now, and what are they doing to resolve this one genocide?
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Because they were bots
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Biden decided it was more important to send billions in weapons to israel as they committed genocide than to listen to protestors, so much so that he thought it was worth losing their votes over it. Harris continued with the same rhetoric. You're ignoring over a year of things getting worse and worse in Palestine while insisting that somehow the democrats ignoring voters during an election when they need the votes are somehow going to make things better when they don't need the votes. You're admonishing people protesting against genocide in order to defend a party that has authorized billions in weapons to israel as they're committing genocide, with Biden even bypassing congress to do so. Think about it.
