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Germany's AfD's far-right leader Alice Weidel held secret meetings with Chinese envoy, it has also emerged that she was on China’s payroll for several years

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  • F [email protected]

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman

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    No true politician would ever lie about what they represent

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      Weidel admitted meeting Wu but said she met him once in months. As for their discussions, Weidel said that she sought an understanding of China’s position on Germany.

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      The damning findings come days ahead of German parliamentary elections in which AfD has rattled mainstream politicians. As per latest opinion polls, the party stands second in popularity and way ahead of incumbent SPD. While AfD’s links to the neo-Nazi movement have led to widespread concerns and contributed to its ostracisation by German parties, the links to China have led to fresh concerns whether a top contender for German chancellorship has been groomed by China.

      The findings are all the more damning as European far-right has long been supported by Russia and China is Russia’s principal ally. The AfD is so extremist that even French far-right party, National Rally (RN), broke ties with it in the European Union (EU) elections last year. Moreover, AfD has previously been charged with spying for China and such allegations contributed to the RN-AfD split.

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      AfD leader Alice Weidel’s long relationship to China

      In light of revealation of Weidel’s secret meetings with the top Chinese diplomat in Germany, fresh attention has come on her long relationship with China that goes back to decades. It is bound to be explored whether she has been groomed by China to do the Communist Party’s bidding in Germany and Europe.

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      As an economist, Weidel worked for the state-owned Bank of China and lived in China for six years. It has been reported that she was on scholarship during those years. Her doctoral thesis was also written on Chinese pension system.

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      In China, Weidel worked at the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences.

      While Weidel today leads a party linked to neo-Nazis, her grandparents were members of the Nazi Party. Her grandfather, Hans Weidel, was a prominent Nazi judge who persecuted political opponents of the Nazi regime. He was appointed by Adolf Hitler himself.

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      Ah, amyet another great politician, if you can't tell politicians are all money grubbing chuckleheads.. in my humble opinion

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        And again, a bunch of traitors waving the banner of patriotism. It's as pathetic as it is predictable.

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        "All the enemies of the Constitution borrow the name and language of patriotism to spread error, discord and false principles... It is thus that public opinion is excited and becomes disorganized; the general will becomes powerless and invalid and patriotism... sometimes seconds, through blind impetuosity, the evil projects of the enemies of our freedom." -MR

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        • underpantsweevil@lemmy.worldU [email protected]

          Just fucking wild to see what does and doesn't qualify as fascism in the Western brain.

          You toss out the AfD and the CCP but forget to mention the Likkud, United Russia, the La Libertad Avanza, or the GOP.

          It's even crazier to see liberals scream and cry about the Genocide in Ürümqi for over a decade, then insist any kind of student protest over the flattening of Gaza City or the brutal rape and murder of hospital chief Abu Safia is the result of Iranian produced pro-Trump propaganda.

          But, to quote Dr Lubinda Haabazoka, Director of the University of Zambia Graduate School of Business and former President of the Economics Association of Zambia

          Every time China visits we get a hospital, every time Britain visits we get a lecture.

          How long until the Chancellor of Germany is repeating this verbatim?

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          I don't 'toss out' the AfD and the CCP. This article is about Germany and China, and I don't see why I woukd engage in whataboutery.

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            Weidel admitted meeting Wu but said she met him once in months. As for their discussions, Weidel said that she sought an understanding of China’s position on Germany.

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            The damning findings come days ahead of German parliamentary elections in which AfD has rattled mainstream politicians. As per latest opinion polls, the party stands second in popularity and way ahead of incumbent SPD. While AfD’s links to the neo-Nazi movement have led to widespread concerns and contributed to its ostracisation by German parties, the links to China have led to fresh concerns whether a top contender for German chancellorship has been groomed by China.

            The findings are all the more damning as European far-right has long been supported by Russia and China is Russia’s principal ally. The AfD is so extremist that even French far-right party, National Rally (RN), broke ties with it in the European Union (EU) elections last year. Moreover, AfD has previously been charged with spying for China and such allegations contributed to the RN-AfD split.

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            AfD leader Alice Weidel’s long relationship to China

            In light of revealation of Weidel’s secret meetings with the top Chinese diplomat in Germany, fresh attention has come on her long relationship with China that goes back to decades. It is bound to be explored whether she has been groomed by China to do the Communist Party’s bidding in Germany and Europe.

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            As an economist, Weidel worked for the state-owned Bank of China and lived in China for six years. It has been reported that she was on scholarship during those years. Her doctoral thesis was also written on Chinese pension system.

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            In China, Weidel worked at the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences.

            While Weidel today leads a party linked to neo-Nazis, her grandparents were members of the Nazi Party. Her grandfather, Hans Weidel, was a prominent Nazi judge who persecuted political opponents of the Nazi regime. He was appointed by Adolf Hitler himself.

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            Is "firstpost.com" a reputable news source? I don't find trace of this in other outlets.

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              Not the US, but fascist billionaires.

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              Why don't you say the same about China and Russia?

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                You would've thought that Trump getting a mugshot will deter voters. Yeah, go figure. Those cultists don't have a mind of their own.

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                • joelthelion@lemmy.worldJ [email protected]

                  Is "firstpost.com" a reputable news source? I don't find trace of this in other outlets.

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                  Same to both points. I don't like how AfD, by all accounts a right wing neo fascist party, looks to be gaining mandates, but I don't think that this specific attack on this specific person is reasonable.

                  I mean Weidel did spend years in China and speaks Mandarin. If she met with the Chinese ambassador on a regular basis, there could be a million reasons, and being a Chinese spy or getting resources from China for her party, are only two of them.

                  There are a lot of other reasons why Weidel and her party shouldn't be in power, but as of now this specific reason isn't one of them in my view.

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                    Weidel admitted meeting Wu but said she met him once in months. As for their discussions, Weidel said that she sought an understanding of China’s position on Germany.

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                    The damning findings come days ahead of German parliamentary elections in which AfD has rattled mainstream politicians. As per latest opinion polls, the party stands second in popularity and way ahead of incumbent SPD. While AfD’s links to the neo-Nazi movement have led to widespread concerns and contributed to its ostracisation by German parties, the links to China have led to fresh concerns whether a top contender for German chancellorship has been groomed by China.

                    The findings are all the more damning as European far-right has long been supported by Russia and China is Russia’s principal ally. The AfD is so extremist that even French far-right party, National Rally (RN), broke ties with it in the European Union (EU) elections last year. Moreover, AfD has previously been charged with spying for China and such allegations contributed to the RN-AfD split.

                    ...

                    AfD leader Alice Weidel’s long relationship to China

                    In light of revealation of Weidel’s secret meetings with the top Chinese diplomat in Germany, fresh attention has come on her long relationship with China that goes back to decades. It is bound to be explored whether she has been groomed by China to do the Communist Party’s bidding in Germany and Europe.

                    ...

                    As an economist, Weidel worked for the state-owned Bank of China and lived in China for six years. It has been reported that she was on scholarship during those years. Her doctoral thesis was also written on Chinese pension system.

                    ...

                    In China, Weidel worked at the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences.

                    While Weidel today leads a party linked to neo-Nazis, her grandparents were members of the Nazi Party. Her grandfather, Hans Weidel, was a prominent Nazi judge who persecuted political opponents of the Nazi regime. He was appointed by Adolf Hitler himself.

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                    Is that dyed hair? She's some fake Arya and she doesn't even have blue eyes.

                    What the hell is this disappointment?

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                      Is that dyed hair? She's some fake Arya and she doesn't even have blue eyes.

                      What the hell is this disappointment?

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                      Aryan puritans strike again

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                        Weidel admitted meeting Wu but said she met him once in months. As for their discussions, Weidel said that she sought an understanding of China’s position on Germany.

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                        The damning findings come days ahead of German parliamentary elections in which AfD has rattled mainstream politicians. As per latest opinion polls, the party stands second in popularity and way ahead of incumbent SPD. While AfD’s links to the neo-Nazi movement have led to widespread concerns and contributed to its ostracisation by German parties, the links to China have led to fresh concerns whether a top contender for German chancellorship has been groomed by China.

                        The findings are all the more damning as European far-right has long been supported by Russia and China is Russia’s principal ally. The AfD is so extremist that even French far-right party, National Rally (RN), broke ties with it in the European Union (EU) elections last year. Moreover, AfD has previously been charged with spying for China and such allegations contributed to the RN-AfD split.

                        ...

                        AfD leader Alice Weidel’s long relationship to China

                        In light of revealation of Weidel’s secret meetings with the top Chinese diplomat in Germany, fresh attention has come on her long relationship with China that goes back to decades. It is bound to be explored whether she has been groomed by China to do the Communist Party’s bidding in Germany and Europe.

                        ...

                        As an economist, Weidel worked for the state-owned Bank of China and lived in China for six years. It has been reported that she was on scholarship during those years. Her doctoral thesis was also written on Chinese pension system.

                        ...

                        In China, Weidel worked at the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences.

                        While Weidel today leads a party linked to neo-Nazis, her grandparents were members of the Nazi Party. Her grandfather, Hans Weidel, was a prominent Nazi judge who persecuted political opponents of the Nazi regime. He was appointed by Adolf Hitler himself.

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                        I would suggest to stop spreading rumors like this until they are 100% provable. Reason: because they always lead to the accused getting more popular.

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                          Aryan puritans strike again

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                          I am not even European lol

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                            I am not even European lol

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                            Not talking about you but Hitler in the link.

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                              I would suggest to stop spreading rumors like this until they are 100% provable. Reason: because they always lead to the accused getting more popular.

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                              This is not rumors. Weidel admitted to have met the Chinese ambassador, she was on China's payroll, and her close ties with China have long been known. All these ate facts. Just read the article (and other sources across the web).

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                                Not talking about you but Hitler in the link.

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                                I'll check it out at some point

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                                  Same to both points. I don't like how AfD, by all accounts a right wing neo fascist party, looks to be gaining mandates, but I don't think that this specific attack on this specific person is reasonable.

                                  I mean Weidel did spend years in China and speaks Mandarin. If she met with the Chinese ambassador on a regular basis, there could be a million reasons, and being a Chinese spy or getting resources from China for her party, are only two of them.

                                  There are a lot of other reasons why Weidel and her party shouldn't be in power, but as of now this specific reason isn't one of them in my view.

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                                  Hi, your quote is fairly accurate.

                                  I deleted my comment because I later found a few references to this Chinese stuff and didn't feel like arguing about it. But basically, I agree with you. This stuff may or may not be innocuous, we can't really know. But there are a zillion better other reasons to oppose AfD.

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                                    Is that dyed hair? She's some fake Arya and she doesn't even have blue eyes.

                                    What the hell is this disappointment?

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                                    She is literally a lesbian who is married to a Sri Lankan woman but is in a party that hates LGBTQIA+ people and immigrants. Don't expect any integrity from that person.

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                                      She is literally a lesbian who is married to a Sri Lankan woman but is in a party that hates LGBTQIA+ people and immigrants. Don't expect any integrity from that person.

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                                      Tbh, I think that complete inner contradiction and brokenness is what marks people like her.

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                                        ...

                                        Weidel admitted meeting Wu but said she met him once in months. As for their discussions, Weidel said that she sought an understanding of China’s position on Germany.

                                        ...

                                        The damning findings come days ahead of German parliamentary elections in which AfD has rattled mainstream politicians. As per latest opinion polls, the party stands second in popularity and way ahead of incumbent SPD. While AfD’s links to the neo-Nazi movement have led to widespread concerns and contributed to its ostracisation by German parties, the links to China have led to fresh concerns whether a top contender for German chancellorship has been groomed by China.

                                        The findings are all the more damning as European far-right has long been supported by Russia and China is Russia’s principal ally. The AfD is so extremist that even French far-right party, National Rally (RN), broke ties with it in the European Union (EU) elections last year. Moreover, AfD has previously been charged with spying for China and such allegations contributed to the RN-AfD split.

                                        ...

                                        AfD leader Alice Weidel’s long relationship to China

                                        In light of revealation of Weidel’s secret meetings with the top Chinese diplomat in Germany, fresh attention has come on her long relationship with China that goes back to decades. It is bound to be explored whether she has been groomed by China to do the Communist Party’s bidding in Germany and Europe.

                                        ...

                                        As an economist, Weidel worked for the state-owned Bank of China and lived in China for six years. It has been reported that she was on scholarship during those years. Her doctoral thesis was also written on Chinese pension system.

                                        ...

                                        In China, Weidel worked at the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences.

                                        While Weidel today leads a party linked to neo-Nazis, her grandparents were members of the Nazi Party. Her grandfather, Hans Weidel, was a prominent Nazi judge who persecuted political opponents of the Nazi regime. He was appointed by Adolf Hitler himself.

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                                        The neo-Nazi Weidel is a CCP asset and her family tree is filled with the brown shirt fuckers.

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                                          Same to both points. I don't like how AfD, by all accounts a right wing neo fascist party, looks to be gaining mandates, but I don't think that this specific attack on this specific person is reasonable.

                                          I mean Weidel did spend years in China and speaks Mandarin. If she met with the Chinese ambassador on a regular basis, there could be a million reasons, and being a Chinese spy or getting resources from China for her party, are only two of them.

                                          There are a lot of other reasons why Weidel and her party shouldn't be in power, but as of now this specific reason isn't one of them in my view.

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                                          So this is not proof of anything on the part of Weidel, but: Maximilian Krah, the Afd MEP, was found to be furthering Chinese interests as well. Including having a Chinese-German employee who was thought to be a Chinese spy. The employee is gone now and Krah has reemerged and will be presumably be voted into Bundestag today.

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