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Germany's AfD's far-right leader Alice Weidel held secret meetings with Chinese envoy, it has also emerged that she was on China’s payroll for several years

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  • L [email protected]

    They produce scandals each day to get attention. Same as Musk, Trump, etc.... At some point, the fans just don't care anymore.

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    That, or distract, overwhelm.
    When we have 10 appalling things every single day, we lack the energy to connect the dots between the lesser ones. Or care. It's both a flood and exposure therapy.

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    • F [email protected]

      ..China?

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      Calling yourself communist while doing capitalism doesn't actually mean anything.

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      • T [email protected]

        so far right came all the way around to communist

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        There's never actually been large scale communism. The step where the autocratic takeover ends just doesn't happen. So yeah, practiced communism is not just coming around to and touching fascism, they're almost congruent.

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        • gsus4@programming.devG [email protected]

          So AfD is supported by China, russia and the US? Which major countries do we have left outside the EU to help fight fascist bullshit?

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          Not the US, but fascist billionaires.

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          • F [email protected]

            ..China?

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            Communism as Marx intended:

            State-capitalism is as close to communism as laissez-faire capitalism.

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              Weidel admitted meeting Wu but said she met him once in months. As for their discussions, Weidel said that she sought an understanding of China’s position on Germany.

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              The damning findings come days ahead of German parliamentary elections in which AfD has rattled mainstream politicians. As per latest opinion polls, the party stands second in popularity and way ahead of incumbent SPD. While AfD’s links to the neo-Nazi movement have led to widespread concerns and contributed to its ostracisation by German parties, the links to China have led to fresh concerns whether a top contender for German chancellorship has been groomed by China.

              The findings are all the more damning as European far-right has long been supported by Russia and China is Russia’s principal ally. The AfD is so extremist that even French far-right party, National Rally (RN), broke ties with it in the European Union (EU) elections last year. Moreover, AfD has previously been charged with spying for China and such allegations contributed to the RN-AfD split.

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              AfD leader Alice Weidel’s long relationship to China

              In light of revealation of Weidel’s secret meetings with the top Chinese diplomat in Germany, fresh attention has come on her long relationship with China that goes back to decades. It is bound to be explored whether she has been groomed by China to do the Communist Party’s bidding in Germany and Europe.

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              As an economist, Weidel worked for the state-owned Bank of China and lived in China for six years. It has been reported that she was on scholarship during those years. Her doctoral thesis was also written on Chinese pension system.

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              In China, Weidel worked at the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences.

              While Weidel today leads a party linked to neo-Nazis, her grandparents were members of the Nazi Party. Her grandfather, Hans Weidel, was a prominent Nazi judge who persecuted political opponents of the Nazi regime. He was appointed by Adolf Hitler himself.

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              #44

              Ahh the wonderful communist who support.... wait those are neo nazis and the others are just capitalists...

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                Weidel admitted meeting Wu but said she met him once in months. As for their discussions, Weidel said that she sought an understanding of China’s position on Germany.

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                The damning findings come days ahead of German parliamentary elections in which AfD has rattled mainstream politicians. As per latest opinion polls, the party stands second in popularity and way ahead of incumbent SPD. While AfD’s links to the neo-Nazi movement have led to widespread concerns and contributed to its ostracisation by German parties, the links to China have led to fresh concerns whether a top contender for German chancellorship has been groomed by China.

                The findings are all the more damning as European far-right has long been supported by Russia and China is Russia’s principal ally. The AfD is so extremist that even French far-right party, National Rally (RN), broke ties with it in the European Union (EU) elections last year. Moreover, AfD has previously been charged with spying for China and such allegations contributed to the RN-AfD split.

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                AfD leader Alice Weidel’s long relationship to China

                In light of revealation of Weidel’s secret meetings with the top Chinese diplomat in Germany, fresh attention has come on her long relationship with China that goes back to decades. It is bound to be explored whether she has been groomed by China to do the Communist Party’s bidding in Germany and Europe.

                ...

                As an economist, Weidel worked for the state-owned Bank of China and lived in China for six years. It has been reported that she was on scholarship during those years. Her doctoral thesis was also written on Chinese pension system.

                ...

                In China, Weidel worked at the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences.

                While Weidel today leads a party linked to neo-Nazis, her grandparents were members of the Nazi Party. Her grandfather, Hans Weidel, was a prominent Nazi judge who persecuted political opponents of the Nazi regime. He was appointed by Adolf Hitler himself.

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                #45

                They are all owned by China or Russia. Even the ones you like

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                • A [email protected]

                  Ahh the wonderful communist who support.... wait those are neo nazis and the others are just capitalists...

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                  https://apnews.com/article/tesla-china-lawsuits-musk-investigation-58b10ccace488784fcc63646ab78b410

                  Much communist

                  Hope of socialism

                  Wow

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                  • Y [email protected]

                    Communism as Marx intended:

                    State-capitalism is as close to communism as laissez-faire capitalism.

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                    In fact yes. Marx was quite insisting that communism would only come about after an extensive period of capitalism and that mostly rural countries like his contemporary Russia could not leap-frog to communism. Later he back-tracked a bit, but never fully. But it basically just shows that his idea of economic and material determinism is quite silly and many of his contemporary anarchists also told him so, which he got extremely angry about.

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                    • Y [email protected]

                      Communism as Marx intended:

                      State-capitalism is as close to communism as laissez-faire capitalism.

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                      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman

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                        Ahh the wonderful communist who support.... wait those are neo nazis and the others are just capitalists...

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                        China is state-capitalist, my friend

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                          https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman

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                          No true politician would ever lie about what they represent

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                            Weidel admitted meeting Wu but said she met him once in months. As for their discussions, Weidel said that she sought an understanding of China’s position on Germany.

                            ...

                            The damning findings come days ahead of German parliamentary elections in which AfD has rattled mainstream politicians. As per latest opinion polls, the party stands second in popularity and way ahead of incumbent SPD. While AfD’s links to the neo-Nazi movement have led to widespread concerns and contributed to its ostracisation by German parties, the links to China have led to fresh concerns whether a top contender for German chancellorship has been groomed by China.

                            The findings are all the more damning as European far-right has long been supported by Russia and China is Russia’s principal ally. The AfD is so extremist that even French far-right party, National Rally (RN), broke ties with it in the European Union (EU) elections last year. Moreover, AfD has previously been charged with spying for China and such allegations contributed to the RN-AfD split.

                            ...

                            AfD leader Alice Weidel’s long relationship to China

                            In light of revealation of Weidel’s secret meetings with the top Chinese diplomat in Germany, fresh attention has come on her long relationship with China that goes back to decades. It is bound to be explored whether she has been groomed by China to do the Communist Party’s bidding in Germany and Europe.

                            ...

                            As an economist, Weidel worked for the state-owned Bank of China and lived in China for six years. It has been reported that she was on scholarship during those years. Her doctoral thesis was also written on Chinese pension system.

                            ...

                            In China, Weidel worked at the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences.

                            While Weidel today leads a party linked to neo-Nazis, her grandparents were members of the Nazi Party. Her grandfather, Hans Weidel, was a prominent Nazi judge who persecuted political opponents of the Nazi regime. He was appointed by Adolf Hitler himself.

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                            Ah, amyet another great politician, if you can't tell politicians are all money grubbing chuckleheads.. in my humble opinion

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                            • T [email protected]

                              And again, a bunch of traitors waving the banner of patriotism. It's as pathetic as it is predictable.

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                              "All the enemies of the Constitution borrow the name and language of patriotism to spread error, discord and false principles... It is thus that public opinion is excited and becomes disorganized; the general will becomes powerless and invalid and patriotism... sometimes seconds, through blind impetuosity, the evil projects of the enemies of our freedom." -MR

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                              • underpantsweevil@lemmy.worldU [email protected]

                                Just fucking wild to see what does and doesn't qualify as fascism in the Western brain.

                                You toss out the AfD and the CCP but forget to mention the Likkud, United Russia, the La Libertad Avanza, or the GOP.

                                It's even crazier to see liberals scream and cry about the Genocide in Ürümqi for over a decade, then insist any kind of student protest over the flattening of Gaza City or the brutal rape and murder of hospital chief Abu Safia is the result of Iranian produced pro-Trump propaganda.

                                But, to quote Dr Lubinda Haabazoka, Director of the University of Zambia Graduate School of Business and former President of the Economics Association of Zambia

                                Every time China visits we get a hospital, every time Britain visits we get a lecture.

                                How long until the Chancellor of Germany is repeating this verbatim?

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                                I don't 'toss out' the AfD and the CCP. This article is about Germany and China, and I don't see why I woukd engage in whataboutery.

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                                  ...

                                  Weidel admitted meeting Wu but said she met him once in months. As for their discussions, Weidel said that she sought an understanding of China’s position on Germany.

                                  ...

                                  The damning findings come days ahead of German parliamentary elections in which AfD has rattled mainstream politicians. As per latest opinion polls, the party stands second in popularity and way ahead of incumbent SPD. While AfD’s links to the neo-Nazi movement have led to widespread concerns and contributed to its ostracisation by German parties, the links to China have led to fresh concerns whether a top contender for German chancellorship has been groomed by China.

                                  The findings are all the more damning as European far-right has long been supported by Russia and China is Russia’s principal ally. The AfD is so extremist that even French far-right party, National Rally (RN), broke ties with it in the European Union (EU) elections last year. Moreover, AfD has previously been charged with spying for China and such allegations contributed to the RN-AfD split.

                                  ...

                                  AfD leader Alice Weidel’s long relationship to China

                                  In light of revealation of Weidel’s secret meetings with the top Chinese diplomat in Germany, fresh attention has come on her long relationship with China that goes back to decades. It is bound to be explored whether she has been groomed by China to do the Communist Party’s bidding in Germany and Europe.

                                  ...

                                  As an economist, Weidel worked for the state-owned Bank of China and lived in China for six years. It has been reported that she was on scholarship during those years. Her doctoral thesis was also written on Chinese pension system.

                                  ...

                                  In China, Weidel worked at the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences.

                                  While Weidel today leads a party linked to neo-Nazis, her grandparents were members of the Nazi Party. Her grandfather, Hans Weidel, was a prominent Nazi judge who persecuted political opponents of the Nazi regime. He was appointed by Adolf Hitler himself.

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                                  Is "firstpost.com" a reputable news source? I don't find trace of this in other outlets.

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                                    Not the US, but fascist billionaires.

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                                    Why don't you say the same about China and Russia?

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                                      You would've thought that Trump getting a mugshot will deter voters. Yeah, go figure. Those cultists don't have a mind of their own.

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                                        Is "firstpost.com" a reputable news source? I don't find trace of this in other outlets.

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                                        Same to both points. I don't like how AfD, by all accounts a right wing neo fascist party, looks to be gaining mandates, but I don't think that this specific attack on this specific person is reasonable.

                                        I mean Weidel did spend years in China and speaks Mandarin. If she met with the Chinese ambassador on a regular basis, there could be a million reasons, and being a Chinese spy or getting resources from China for her party, are only two of them.

                                        There are a lot of other reasons why Weidel and her party shouldn't be in power, but as of now this specific reason isn't one of them in my view.

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                                          Weidel admitted meeting Wu but said she met him once in months. As for their discussions, Weidel said that she sought an understanding of China’s position on Germany.

                                          ...

                                          The damning findings come days ahead of German parliamentary elections in which AfD has rattled mainstream politicians. As per latest opinion polls, the party stands second in popularity and way ahead of incumbent SPD. While AfD’s links to the neo-Nazi movement have led to widespread concerns and contributed to its ostracisation by German parties, the links to China have led to fresh concerns whether a top contender for German chancellorship has been groomed by China.

                                          The findings are all the more damning as European far-right has long been supported by Russia and China is Russia’s principal ally. The AfD is so extremist that even French far-right party, National Rally (RN), broke ties with it in the European Union (EU) elections last year. Moreover, AfD has previously been charged with spying for China and such allegations contributed to the RN-AfD split.

                                          ...

                                          AfD leader Alice Weidel’s long relationship to China

                                          In light of revealation of Weidel’s secret meetings with the top Chinese diplomat in Germany, fresh attention has come on her long relationship with China that goes back to decades. It is bound to be explored whether she has been groomed by China to do the Communist Party’s bidding in Germany and Europe.

                                          ...

                                          As an economist, Weidel worked for the state-owned Bank of China and lived in China for six years. It has been reported that she was on scholarship during those years. Her doctoral thesis was also written on Chinese pension system.

                                          ...

                                          In China, Weidel worked at the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences.

                                          While Weidel today leads a party linked to neo-Nazis, her grandparents were members of the Nazi Party. Her grandfather, Hans Weidel, was a prominent Nazi judge who persecuted political opponents of the Nazi regime. He was appointed by Adolf Hitler himself.

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                                          Is that dyed hair? She's some fake Arya and she doesn't even have blue eyes.

                                          What the hell is this disappointment?

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