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Bernie Sanders keeps saying Ol-ah-gawky but I thought it was o-la-garky?

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    Have I been mis-prouncing it this whole time? English is not my first language I am French. I am talking about Oligarchy

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    Bernie Sanders can pronounce it however the fuck he wants, with as thick of a brooklyn accent as he wants.

    He has earned at least that much lol

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      Have I been mis-prouncing it this whole time? English is not my first language I am French. I am talking about Oligarchy

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      Most words will sound different every few miles. There are countless regional accents, meaning there is no right or wrong. I'm northern Irish and I say mir instead of mirror. It's wrong but it's not wrong, if you know what I mean.

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        Have I been mis-prouncing it this whole time? English is not my first language I am French. I am talking about Oligarchy

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        You should hear how us mountain folk pronounce it.

        Awl-uh-garky, or all-uh-gurky are the two most common at my shooting club (and yes, left wing shooting clubs exist in the south, even here in the sticks).

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          Have I been mis-prouncing it this whole time? English is not my first language I am French. I am talking about Oligarchy

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          Some east coast areas, like where Sanders is from, inherited non-rhoticity from England. The “r” is pronounced in most US accents.

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          • davel@lemmy.mlD [email protected]

            Some east coast areas, like where Sanders is from, inherited non-rhoticity from England. The “r” is pronounced in most US accents.

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            Hey cool thanks for this! Love learning about language and have never even heard this term before , or I guess as Bernie would say “I have Nevah even head of this tem befoe” lol

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              Hey cool thanks for this! Love learning about language and have never even heard this term before , or I guess as Bernie would say “I have Nevah even head of this tem befoe” lol

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              If you loved this then you will likely enjoy British linguist YouTuber @DrGeoffLindsey.

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                Have I been mis-prouncing it this whole time? English is not my first language I am French. I am talking about Oligarchy

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                The second vowel is an unstressed "i". In most varieties of English, since it is unstressed, we pronounce it as a schwa, which sounds roughly like "uh".

                If you'd like to articulate that syllable, then pronounce it like the "i" in "sit". That's completely optional.

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                  Have I been mis-prouncing it this whole time? English is not my first language I am French. I am talking about Oligarchy

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                  You are correct. It is le garky not la garky. But Bernie does not follow the norms of gendered language.

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                  • davel@lemmy.mlD [email protected]

                    If you loved this then you will likely enjoy British linguist YouTuber @DrGeoffLindsey.

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                    I'll also toss A Way with Words on the pile too. It's a long running NPR-adjacent radio show/podcast about linquistics.

                    My favorite was a dive they did on the descriptor "like a dead preacher" to refer to an annoying awkward thing to move.

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                      Have I been mis-prouncing it this whole time? English is not my first language I am French. I am talking about Oligarchy

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                      Have you never heard of an accent before?

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                        Have you never heard of an accent before?

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                        No I haven’t. Up until I read these replies on Lenny I had no idea it was a thing. TIL

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                          Have I been mis-prouncing it this whole time? English is not my first language I am French. I am talking about Oligarchy

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                          oh, it's garlicky

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                            Have I been mis-prouncing it this whole time? English is not my first language I am French. I am talking about Oligarchy

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                            Isn't oligarchy a loan word from the French language? Or like, if not a loan word I'm sure it at least has French etymology

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                              No I haven’t. Up until I read these replies on Lenny I had no idea it was a thing. TIL

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                              I'm going to assume you're not being sarcastic here. Aren't there accents in France?

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