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How to secure your phone before attending a protest

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    What happens if you click manage settings?

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    You get to choose even more companies to share with.

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      Irish people were actually considered "non-white" throughout most of the history of race as a concept. They were only recently recategorized by racists when they felt their numbers dwindling and decided to expand the tent a little.

      Irish people have suffered from a history of explicitly racist oppression; calling them "the oppressors" flies directly in the face of history. Their skin colour may be white, but the history of their relationship with race as a power structure is far more complex.

      This does not mean that it's impossible for Irish people to be racist themselves, or for Irish people to embrace "white" as an identity. Race is complicated; that's exactly why trying to adopt simplistic attitudes to it never works.

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      Irish people were actually considered “non-white” throughout most of the history of race as a concept.

      That's a myth. I've seen the Ellis Island records of my Irish ancestors' arrival in the US. There's a Race box, and what was filled in for them (and others with Irish surnames that I noticed) was WHITE.

      Note that Irish immigrants could own property, get bank accounts and credit, and could vote. They held public office from early in the wave of immigration. In the Western US, the earliest English-speaking settlers included a large percentage of Irish-Americans (including several of my ancestors). There was prejudice in hiring, and

      It's perfectly possible to be classified as white but still oppressed for other reasons. In the US in the 19th and early 20th century, that reason was mainly anti-Catholic prejudice, followed by classism. The KKK were against the Irish because of their Catholicism, as is shown by contemporary pamphlets and records of speeches. And those were the same reasons the English were so virulently anti-Irish-- those and the fact that the Irish were living on some land that they wanted to steal.

      This does not mean that it’s impossible for Irish people to be racist themselves

      The Draft Riots in New York city during the Civil War provides an illustrative example of that. Also memoirs of some of my ancestors (one was quite proud of his role in making his town in New Mexico a sunset town). Anti-Chinese racism was also widespread and violent in the West.

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        Can we revive radios?

        I mean, yes they can triangulate transmissions, but (As far as I know) they don't have IMEIs, and you talk in code to obscure meanings.

        You turn it off before going home, and there's no tracking, don't transmit from home and its fine.

        For evidence, bring a camera.

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        For a good compromise, use Meshtastic. Long-range radio mesh network for texting that phones can use instead of cell networks.

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          Buy a burner, keep the battery out until you arrive at the protest, remove the battery when you leave the protest. Don't store any phone numbers in that phone.

          Not that protesting will do anything anymore, that time has come and gone

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          No offense but obeying in advance is fucking pathetic and it is what your last comment is doing.

          Any civil disobedience does matter and changes alot more than you think. They also want you to think it doesnt matter.

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          • misk@sopuli.xyzM [email protected]

            Write down your name and ICE information with a sharpie on your body. Use a rugged phone case.

            Don’t bother going to peaceful protests, they don’t work against post-truth authoritarian governments.

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            I've been involved in peaceful protests and in other actions. Get out there and attend peaceful protests. It helps develop your situational awareness, you learn what it's like being at a protest, and often you'll get to find out what happens when the police and/or counter-protestors run amok. And even when the corporate media suppresses reports of protests, there are other ways of getting that information out.

            As for non-pacifistic direct action, operational security and comms security are even more critical. This thread is probably not the place to discuss it in detail. Just be aware that the few normal constraints on the behavior of the authorities have been relaxed or lifted entirely.

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              The police have a device that they can plug into your phone and see everything on the phone, cellbrite is the company name.

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              Plug in to my burner?

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                Please accept this cookie before learning how to not be tracked 😕

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                • misk@sopuli.xyzM [email protected]

                  I participated in plenty of protests but haven’t made any acquaintances. I think internet is a better space for meeting people.

                  Not to mention sometimes a protest starts peaceful and then goes to shit.

                  Taking a look at the Tesla protests it’s just no-impact feel-good thing. Liberals have too much of disdain for non-economic violence.

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                  I think internet is a better space for meeting people.

                  You have no idea who you're "meeting" online. F2F isn't perfectly safe, but connecting with people you know, or who are at least known by people you know, is far better than some rando online. Even then, you need to learn to compartmentalize and operate on a need-to-know basis. If you want your group to be infiltrated, at least make them work for it. I wouldn't enter into a financial transaction with someone who approached me on the internet, so why would I bet my freedom or even my life on such a person?

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                    how to secure your phone: leave it at home. Done

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                    Also any other personal electronics like your watch or fitness tracker.

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                      For a good compromise, use Meshtastic. Long-range radio mesh network for texting that phones can use instead of cell networks.

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                      Can one make a general relay meshtastic node, or are they all private relays?

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                        It is.
                        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Printer_tracking_dots

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                        Print at a public library?

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                          Plug in to my burner?

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                          Sure - time they spend there is time not spent on something more incriminating!

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                            Buy a burner, keep the battery out until you arrive at the protest, remove the battery when you leave the protest. Don't store any phone numbers in that phone.

                            Not that protesting will do anything anymore, that time has come and gone

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                            There are forms of protest beyond just going on a parade through town

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                              If it came to that, the SD card would be confiscated and/or the camera smashed.

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                              Send data to a remote location and don't tell them anything about it. No comment to everything before you get legal advice.

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                              • M [email protected]

                                That's long term memory for you. Normal when you get old.

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                                Then I'm afraid I started getting old way too soon.

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                                  I think internet is a better space for meeting people.

                                  You have no idea who you're "meeting" online. F2F isn't perfectly safe, but connecting with people you know, or who are at least known by people you know, is far better than some rando online. Even then, you need to learn to compartmentalize and operate on a need-to-know basis. If you want your group to be infiltrated, at least make them work for it. I wouldn't enter into a financial transaction with someone who approached me on the internet, so why would I bet my freedom or even my life on such a person?

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                                  I’m not exchanging financial information with strangers regardless of whether it is online or offline. You’re not IRA, you don’t need this kind of precautions anyway.

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                                    I want to see articles about attending revolts!

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                                      I've been involved in peaceful protests and in other actions. Get out there and attend peaceful protests. It helps develop your situational awareness, you learn what it's like being at a protest, and often you'll get to find out what happens when the police and/or counter-protestors run amok. And even when the corporate media suppresses reports of protests, there are other ways of getting that information out.

                                      As for non-pacifistic direct action, operational security and comms security are even more critical. This thread is probably not the place to discuss it in detail. Just be aware that the few normal constraints on the behavior of the authorities have been relaxed or lifted entirely.

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                                      I participated in the biggest protests since the fall of Russian occupation in my country. I helped people organise and prepare, I joined a political party. Results? None, because there was no path to those and leadership up top is mostly concerned about their position. It was actual virtue signalling even though I hate everyone who uses this term.

                                      What is your plan exactly? There is raising awareness but are you actually convincing anyone? Is someone unaware of what’s happening? What I’m seeing is that libs assume everything Trump supporters say is wrong and vice versa, there’s no discussion so how can any of you convince each other? In a polarised world people picked their sides based on criteria that were important to them and then pulled into a boxing match between liberals and fascists.

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                                        how to secure your phone: leave it at home. Done

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                                        Not buy one?

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                                          I want to see articles about attending revolts!

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                                          https://www.mobilize.us/indivisible/

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