Trump says US will not make Ukraine security guarantees ‘beyond very much’ and Kyiv can ‘forget about’ joining Nato – live
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At this point he's probably just buying time. He knows the US will abandon them, but probably needs to give the EU time to sort out their finances.
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So why should anyone listen to what the US says anyway?
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Did anyone expect anything else from Krasnov?
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Krasnov does what he is TOLD.
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Maybe he was referring to this, though he's Canadian (the son of astronaut Chris Hadfield, though great in his own right).
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Hey France, you wanna dominate europe and soon also the world again? Comon who than to do it better than with your old pal germany. This time we are the good guys. Democracy, security, peace and justice! - germany
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Seems like the US has no leverage if we're not offering anything.
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"Art of the Deal"
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Chomsky is pointing out that the US, who Ukraine is still very dependent on for military weapons, and Russia, who is invading Ukraine, have the power here.
Wait wait wait, you think that the US and Russia have the power here... when Ukraine could make peace at any time?
Like, Chomsky isn't here saying that the US should back Ukraine more. He's literally saying the opposite. What the fuck? Are you really this desperate to play apologist for him that you're posing him as saying the exact opposite of what he is?
Fucking sickening.
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Well, not necessarily encrypted messaging security, https://www.intelligenceonline.com/government-intelligence/2025/01/30/france-makes-new-push-for-backdoors-into-encrypted-messaging-apps,110369896-art
That being said, yes, a stronger EU is better for the whole world. I hate that Trump is becoming the impetus for that.
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As for NATO membership in particular, all NATO members need to accept new members...
But the EU has a similar clause to help with military invasions, so the US support isn't strictly needed for security.
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I though trump was going to pull the US out of Nato?
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Trump and Pooting. Helping the EU grow larger and breaking their chains of Dependance
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The leverage is whatever they expect to happen if they are left to Russian interests
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Made me chuckle, thanks
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Ukraine is going to renuclearize
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The thing confusing me most is why Ukraine would trust any US' "guarantee", when they've been nothing but untrustworthy.
And people's lives are not toys. I get the sentiment behind wanting less people to die. But Trump and Putin do think people's lives are toys, so I can't imagine the outcome of this being beneficial in any way to Ukraine.
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And there is no provision to remove a more member from NATO.
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I guess by staying in they can derail it being useful to anybody else, veto new members, etc.
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No, it’s not.
