Trump-Zelenskyy meeting live: White House talks break down
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Wow, to watch Zelenskyy's face fall when he realized there was no intention of trump doing anything for Ukraine. He was trying to fix shit in his head, but I don't think he got there.
Vance is a turd.
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Watching America collapse in real time is horrific.
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Beyond furious with Trump and Vance.
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To me it looks like they are putting up a show for whatever reasons, i believe the deal governments have don't get discussed in public and are already on the table.
Here's NATO activity we know of in the black sea as of yesterday:
https://www.itamilradar.com/2025/02/27/intense-nato-air-activity-in-the-black-sea-area/
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Kinda surreal to hear a president say unironically, Hunter Biden, Joe Biden, Hillary Clknton, Obama in quick succession with no actual thought.
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It's up to you now, Europe.
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It's hard to misrepresent this as anything but Trump throwing a tantrum.
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If only. Now, whenever there is an election here, we gotta deal with russian, Chinese and US state interference...
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I can hardly watch this. Fills me with anxiety
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"I heard it from Putin."
That's really what was going on there.
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"Bing bing bong bong bing bing."
The weave, everybody!
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I watched this train wreck. Essence first, emotions later.
Trump:
- claims that previous presidents didn't help Ukraine
- claims that the words of a US president aren't worth much (cannot deter Russia)
- also contradicts oneself, claiming that Biden was too hardline on Russia
- claims that Obama didn't give any military assistance to Ukraine (but Obama did)
- claims that he gave Javelin ATGMs to Ukraine (could be true, as Trump did try to blackmail Zelensky with 0.4 millions worth of military aid, while Biden didn't try to blackmail with 60 billions)
- again mis-states the volume of US assistance to Ukraine
- says that Zelensky needs to be thankful and is being disrespectful
- behaves disrespectfully, claiming Zelensky is not allowed to speak, continues ranting
Zelensky:
- doesn't get to speak as Trump rants
- manages to say that he is thankful to the US
- says that he already had a ceasefire with Putin, which he personally signed in 2019 with Merkel and Macron also present, and Putin broke the ceasefire
- says he wants a ceasefire with guarantees
- says that Ukraine isn't going to lose
Vance:
- says Zelensky isn't thankful enough in this room here and now
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And yet the American luegenpresse never fail to disappoint.
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I've read about this too. There was a French AWACS plane with its fighter escort taking a look at Crimea from distance. And later, there was a visit by an US Navy plane that can drop sonar buoys and assorted stuff. I missed the Italian electronic warfare plane, reading about it now.
Russian sources have been speculating that an Ukrainian strike usually comes within some days of such a visit.
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And we're going to take down everyone else that we can.
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I don't think the US survives this honestly.
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This is pure propaganda, it's why it was so openly streamed live, even though there was no intention of signing the deal.
I will provide a propagandistic casus belli. Its credibility doesn't matter. The victor will not be asked whether he told the truth. - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda_in_Nazi_Germany#In_power_(1933–1939)
Especially easy to do after the Trump administration purged media dissenters
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I am so fucking sick of this pathetic piss baby bullshit. This fucking traitor and his cock holster have no right to disparage Zelenskyy, whilst polishing putins knob and trying to blackmail an ally into giving away their countries natural fucking resources. The level of treacherous, inane bullshit being spouted by these stupid fascist fucking fucks comes across like it's from some poorly written trash novel trying to really spell it out for the reader how absurdly terrible these people are.
I tell ya, I'm this close to volunteering for the fight in Ukraine myself, just so I have a chance to literally fight fascism, because the idea of sitting on my hands any longer is becoming detrimental to my health.
