Trump tells Zelensky 'make a deal or we're out' in angry White House meeting
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It means they have to under their treaty obligations. If they choose not to, they are in violation of the treaty and NATO is just over. If the Americans want to do this, they should forever be reminded that article 5 has been used only once before, by them, and the allies came to their aid no questions asked.
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you talk as if Europe doesn't have agency, or a military.
they do. they have gaps in their capability that have been created by the departure of US. and they no longer have the overwhelming advantage against Russia, but the thing is Russia will still get absolutely smoked.
the only thing that has changed, is it will be a far bloodier fight. Europe and America are both casualty averse. the prospect of things like Bucha Mariupol and Irpin happening in their cities, the population isnt ready for that.
(And to be clear, what happened in those towns and cities were a crime against humanity, after what Russia did there the Ukrainians understood very well this is a genocidal total war, its kill or be killed, and I dont think Europe has understood thats what its going to be.)
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The core of the issues were fully American. However, USSR/Russia has worked very long and hard to pour nitroglycerin and gasoline on these issues for their own benefit, such as expanding territory, capturing/killing US and NATO spies, etc. all thanks to their little pet in the white house now. I mean in the 30s the same fascist/capitalist leadership tried another coup it just didn't work (where George H.W. Bush's father was involved, of course). In the 80s they hollowed out our support system even more, and it's only declined from there.
It's clear you don't know who I am or what I know, of course, but you're reading into my comment way too much.
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the russian federation is just a medieval imperial entity masquerading as a federated state. And its society is just a totem pole of people getting used as assets and cattle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJgr-0t-RPc
this more describes the political totem pole within the country,but demographically, the country is a totem pole too. Moscow and St Petersburg rule the rest of the country like bandit kings.
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Maybe,just maybe, look up your world politics again.
- All baltic nations(except Russia) are NATO members
- All baltic nations (except Russia) are EU members and therefore covered by the Lisbon accords as well - which are much more far reaching than what NATO accords cover,btw.
So while the Baltics are in a shitty situation it's not like Russia could attack a "non NATO" Baltic nation - as your "including" make it seem.
And currently there are 40.000 Soldiers of the ARF either deployed in the Baltics or ready to deployed within short notice - while the EU battlegroup is also available and gaining speed. The former is - for the first time - not sustained by US troops mainly,the later one of course never was. And as the ARF is a very British corps the UK has made it very clear that the ARF also operates under the British nuclear deterrence - so did France with both battlegroups.
Will that be enough to deter Putin? Who knows.
Is it nothing? Definitely not - at the moment it would be, even without US support, enough to cause either the Ukrainian front or the "new front" (wherever that would be) to collapse fast.Your narrative is either influenced by Russian misinformation or you are Russian misinformation - it is known that Russia tries to "it's not worth it to even fight" narrative heavily into Europe and it has done so in Ukraine before.
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"Decline" is an understatement. Trump is turning the US into a pariah rogue state, and he's doing it fast.
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The fact that a nation does fascist shit is never excused by the fact that there might be people who weren't all bad. Or were even good.
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I think it's fair to say Russia exacerbated our existing issues. That doesn't absolve us, as you point out, but it's not unreasonable to say "Russia won", either.
We had every opportunity to fix our issues. But nope, we just never really dealt with our history of racism and all the other bigotries (and capitalism, let's be real). When we tried to make things better, the reactionaries pushed back. First with war, and when that was lost, with law, and when that was lost, with rewriting history. That is a strategy that keeps working. Turns out if you don't care for your citizens, they'll eat up all that fake history looking for someone to blame. And that makes us weak to fascism.
So yeah, Russia may have sped up the process, but the roots of our downfall were here all along.
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A foreign democracy is sending an entire generation of their male populace into the afterlife to prevent Russia from expanding their borders and influence
More to the point, to defend themselves. Ukraine isn't playing some kind of geopolitical game; it's trying to survive and has a huge moral high ground that your characterization of it disregards.
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Making a dumbass geography mistake proves I’m American, not Russian
Anyway, I don’t think 40,000 is enough if the USA is aligned or even allied with Russia. Which you know, seems entirely possible given current events.
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I don't think Trump won quite as decisively as it first seemed.
But shit, it's still like... a third of our country that looked at Trump and went, "yeah sure".
How the fuck do we fix this? I straight up have no clue. And that means it very likely will devolve into violence. And that is legitimately terrifying.
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I'm certain Dr Birx can recommend him a therapist who specializes in sold souls...
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It doesn't matter how many nukes Russia has, or how many anti-nuke systems they have. Ukraine only needs to get lucky once. That fear will make Russia back off. It works for North Korea, it can work for Ukraine. The US is unreliable at best and a bunch of lying traitorous scum at worst, so there's no point in relying on them for anything. The ONLY way a country can protect itself from invasion these days is to have a "I'm taking the entire world with me" button.
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I don't think I would say non-voters support this.
But they sure as fuck are complicit in not stopping an OBVIOUS threat to democracy by doing the absolute bare minimum civic duty.
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I'm sure the media played a part.
But fuck. He was so obvious with his racism, with his desire to be a dictator, fuckin everything.
Fuck.
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I’ve been trying to figure this out for the last 8 years. People here are so fucking stupid and selfish.
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They are under an obligation to decide what they want to do collectively. If they decide that it was an aggression, then they are under obligation to provide support. It can be exact same"support" that Europe is already providing to Ukraine. That's too say not much of it
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Man, I want this war over and the US out of it.
But watching our POTUS and VP behave that way on international TV. Even if you support their politics, it's hard for me to understand how all of us are not embarrassed.
I also like that Zelensky didn't just swallow the insults and spoke his peace, because the media is (of course) focusing solely on the preferred Trump narrative.
