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What's the underrated quote that will stick with you for life?

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  • needthosepylons@lemmy.worldN [email protected]

    Even better if you can provide your own understanding of its meaning.

    Mine would be :

    "Nothing kills a man as much as being forced to represent a country" (and err considering the context, I must stress it has nothing to do with the current US shitshow), by a WW1 soldier, illustrator and writer named Jacques Vaché.

    For me it just means being forced into representing a group (national, of course, but maybe also social, racial, sexual, professional, any kind of group) or defining one's identity only by reference to a group is to be avoided at all costs.

    Note : Its not the same, imho, as engaging in a collective struggle or defense against a common oppression.

    How about you?

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    Be excellent to each other and party on dudes.

    Genuinely how I try to live my life, be kind and helpful to others and enjoy myself doing it.

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    • late_night@sopuli.xyzL [email protected]

      Have you seen Babe? That's where that quote is from originally

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      I have yes. And I'd forgotten. Thank you. Adds an extra layer.

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      • needthosepylons@lemmy.worldN [email protected]

        Even better if you can provide your own understanding of its meaning.

        Mine would be :

        "Nothing kills a man as much as being forced to represent a country" (and err considering the context, I must stress it has nothing to do with the current US shitshow), by a WW1 soldier, illustrator and writer named Jacques Vaché.

        For me it just means being forced into representing a group (national, of course, but maybe also social, racial, sexual, professional, any kind of group) or defining one's identity only by reference to a group is to be avoided at all costs.

        Note : Its not the same, imho, as engaging in a collective struggle or defense against a common oppression.

        How about you?

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        No matter how many books , videos you see , you cannot learn how to swim without entering the pool.

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        • late_night@sopuli.xyzL [email protected]

          Have you seen Babe? That's where that quote is from originally

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          I say "That'll do pig" almost daily. It's basically a tic for me at this point.

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          • needthosepylons@lemmy.worldN [email protected]

            Even better if you can provide your own understanding of its meaning.

            Mine would be :

            "Nothing kills a man as much as being forced to represent a country" (and err considering the context, I must stress it has nothing to do with the current US shitshow), by a WW1 soldier, illustrator and writer named Jacques Vaché.

            For me it just means being forced into representing a group (national, of course, but maybe also social, racial, sexual, professional, any kind of group) or defining one's identity only by reference to a group is to be avoided at all costs.

            Note : Its not the same, imho, as engaging in a collective struggle or defense against a common oppression.

            How about you?

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            Wen in dbt breath deep

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            • needthosepylons@lemmy.worldN [email protected]

              Even better if you can provide your own understanding of its meaning.

              Mine would be :

              "Nothing kills a man as much as being forced to represent a country" (and err considering the context, I must stress it has nothing to do with the current US shitshow), by a WW1 soldier, illustrator and writer named Jacques Vaché.

              For me it just means being forced into representing a group (national, of course, but maybe also social, racial, sexual, professional, any kind of group) or defining one's identity only by reference to a group is to be avoided at all costs.

              Note : Its not the same, imho, as engaging in a collective struggle or defense against a common oppression.

              How about you?

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              I don't necessarily think it's underrated because it's the underpinning of a major religion, but;

              Existence is suffering.

              The first noble truth of Buddhism that I don't think enough people really grasp.

              On first read, those three words sound like an angsty teen being all sad, but a deeper exploration tells us that to expect a life of ease and unending contentment is to set ourselves up for continued disappointment and anguish.

              When I first really absorbed the meaning of this it actually made me feel incredible. I am alive, therefore my knee hurts. I am alive, so I'm worried for the welfare of those I love. And when I considered it even further I began to understand that this is something that connects us all, regardless of our status in the world. From the most powerful kings and presidents to those sleeping rough begging for change; we are all fundamentally the same.

              For me, it's really helped me to push through boundaries that have stopped me being more assertive with those who are more powerful than I am; managers, bosses and such. My boss worries about stuff the same way I do. It's probably different stuff, sure, but he's still experiencing existential pain.

              I am not a Buddhist, nor am I particularly spiritual. But I take a lot of inspiration from that phrase.

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              • needthosepylons@lemmy.worldN [email protected]

                Even better if you can provide your own understanding of its meaning.

                Mine would be :

                "Nothing kills a man as much as being forced to represent a country" (and err considering the context, I must stress it has nothing to do with the current US shitshow), by a WW1 soldier, illustrator and writer named Jacques Vaché.

                For me it just means being forced into representing a group (national, of course, but maybe also social, racial, sexual, professional, any kind of group) or defining one's identity only by reference to a group is to be avoided at all costs.

                Note : Its not the same, imho, as engaging in a collective struggle or defense against a common oppression.

                How about you?

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                Don't let the fear of the time it will take to accomplish something stand in the way of your doing it. The time will pass anyway; we might just as well put that passing time to the best possible use.

                Earl Nightingale

                Someone shared the phrase "The time will pass anyway" with me back when I was working on getting healthier. It was a constant reminder that there was no "best" day to start my journey and that anytime I was set back, I could pick things back up right away.

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                • djdarren@sopuli.xyzD [email protected]

                  I don't necessarily think it's underrated because it's the underpinning of a major religion, but;

                  Existence is suffering.

                  The first noble truth of Buddhism that I don't think enough people really grasp.

                  On first read, those three words sound like an angsty teen being all sad, but a deeper exploration tells us that to expect a life of ease and unending contentment is to set ourselves up for continued disappointment and anguish.

                  When I first really absorbed the meaning of this it actually made me feel incredible. I am alive, therefore my knee hurts. I am alive, so I'm worried for the welfare of those I love. And when I considered it even further I began to understand that this is something that connects us all, regardless of our status in the world. From the most powerful kings and presidents to those sleeping rough begging for change; we are all fundamentally the same.

                  For me, it's really helped me to push through boundaries that have stopped me being more assertive with those who are more powerful than I am; managers, bosses and such. My boss worries about stuff the same way I do. It's probably different stuff, sure, but he's still experiencing existential pain.

                  I am not a Buddhist, nor am I particularly spiritual. But I take a lot of inspiration from that phrase.

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                  • needthosepylons@lemmy.worldN [email protected]

                    Even better if you can provide your own understanding of its meaning.

                    Mine would be :

                    "Nothing kills a man as much as being forced to represent a country" (and err considering the context, I must stress it has nothing to do with the current US shitshow), by a WW1 soldier, illustrator and writer named Jacques Vaché.

                    For me it just means being forced into representing a group (national, of course, but maybe also social, racial, sexual, professional, any kind of group) or defining one's identity only by reference to a group is to be avoided at all costs.

                    Note : Its not the same, imho, as engaging in a collective struggle or defense against a common oppression.

                    How about you?

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                    The woods would be very silent if no birds sang except those who sang best

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                      I feel I lack some context here. What makes you think he thought it should be avoided? It sounds like he said it was hard and soul-crushing, but there's nothing in the quote to indicate whether he thought it was worth the effort or not.

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                      Hmm, you're right. I first read this sentence for the first time as an epigraph for a violently anti-patriotic, individualistic, fantastic and oniric book which gave me this impression.
                      After a bit of digging, I still think there's something of my interpretation in the original material (a lettre from Vaché to Aragon from the battlefield), but it's also a dadaist piece, so not so easy to decipher, in which he wishes for the death of his own generals, somehow talks about killing Germans while wearing a monocle and, all of them soldiers, French and German, being slowly decerebrated. He was fighting and killing although he was still against the war, seemed to be borderline self-destructing, dandy, rebelling, talking multiple times about how war changed him for the worse in both his mind and his body, crippled for life too. He died at 23 from an opium overdose.

                      So there is certainly more to it, but I suppose my interpretation isn't totally absurd.

                      More info :

                      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacques_Vaché

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                      • needthosepylons@lemmy.worldN [email protected]

                        Hmm, you're right. I first read this sentence for the first time as an epigraph for a violently anti-patriotic, individualistic, fantastic and oniric book which gave me this impression.
                        After a bit of digging, I still think there's something of my interpretation in the original material (a lettre from Vaché to Aragon from the battlefield), but it's also a dadaist piece, so not so easy to decipher, in which he wishes for the death of his own generals, somehow talks about killing Germans while wearing a monocle and, all of them soldiers, French and German, being slowly decerebrated. He was fighting and killing although he was still against the war, seemed to be borderline self-destructing, dandy, rebelling, talking multiple times about how war changed him for the worse in both his mind and his body, crippled for life too. He died at 23 from an opium overdose.

                        So there is certainly more to it, but I suppose my interpretation isn't totally absurd.

                        More info :

                        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacques_Vaché

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                        Oh, thanks for the details!

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                        • needthosepylons@lemmy.worldN [email protected]

                          Even better if you can provide your own understanding of its meaning.

                          Mine would be :

                          "Nothing kills a man as much as being forced to represent a country" (and err considering the context, I must stress it has nothing to do with the current US shitshow), by a WW1 soldier, illustrator and writer named Jacques Vaché.

                          For me it just means being forced into representing a group (national, of course, but maybe also social, racial, sexual, professional, any kind of group) or defining one's identity only by reference to a group is to be avoided at all costs.

                          Note : Its not the same, imho, as engaging in a collective struggle or defense against a common oppression.

                          How about you?

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                          Never half-ass two things. Whole-ass one thing.

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                          • needthosepylons@lemmy.worldN [email protected]

                            Even better if you can provide your own understanding of its meaning.

                            Mine would be :

                            "Nothing kills a man as much as being forced to represent a country" (and err considering the context, I must stress it has nothing to do with the current US shitshow), by a WW1 soldier, illustrator and writer named Jacques Vaché.

                            For me it just means being forced into representing a group (national, of course, but maybe also social, racial, sexual, professional, any kind of group) or defining one's identity only by reference to a group is to be avoided at all costs.

                            Note : Its not the same, imho, as engaging in a collective struggle or defense against a common oppression.

                            How about you?

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                            Don't be upsetti, eat some spaghetti.

                            Sounds silly but genuinely helps me not get too upset about things I don't hold much power over. At the end of the day I can still make a pot of spaghetti and enjoy it. I like spaghetti.

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                            • needthosepylons@lemmy.worldN [email protected]

                              Even better if you can provide your own understanding of its meaning.

                              Mine would be :

                              "Nothing kills a man as much as being forced to represent a country" (and err considering the context, I must stress it has nothing to do with the current US shitshow), by a WW1 soldier, illustrator and writer named Jacques Vaché.

                              For me it just means being forced into representing a group (national, of course, but maybe also social, racial, sexual, professional, any kind of group) or defining one's identity only by reference to a group is to be avoided at all costs.

                              Note : Its not the same, imho, as engaging in a collective struggle or defense against a common oppression.

                              How about you?

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                              Comparison is the thief of joy. I think a lot of people could do with that one.

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                                Don't let the fear of the time it will take to accomplish something stand in the way of your doing it. The time will pass anyway; we might just as well put that passing time to the best possible use.

                                Earl Nightingale

                                Someone shared the phrase "The time will pass anyway" with me back when I was working on getting healthier. It was a constant reminder that there was no "best" day to start my journey and that anytime I was set back, I could pick things back up right away.

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                                With that username and that quote, I expect that you are (like me) in your 60s.

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                                  "Sometimes the smallest things take up the most room in your heart." - Winnie-the-Pooh

                                  I didn't read Winnie-the-Pooh till I was an adult and when I read this it felt like reading a universal truth everyone should know. It nearly brought me to tears.

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                                  It sounds like you might like "The Tao of Pooh".

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                                  • needthosepylons@lemmy.worldN [email protected]

                                    Even better if you can provide your own understanding of its meaning.

                                    Mine would be :

                                    "Nothing kills a man as much as being forced to represent a country" (and err considering the context, I must stress it has nothing to do with the current US shitshow), by a WW1 soldier, illustrator and writer named Jacques Vaché.

                                    For me it just means being forced into representing a group (national, of course, but maybe also social, racial, sexual, professional, any kind of group) or defining one's identity only by reference to a group is to be avoided at all costs.

                                    Note : Its not the same, imho, as engaging in a collective struggle or defense against a common oppression.

                                    How about you?

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                                    "we are born alone, we live alone, and we die alone. it is only through love and relationships that we create the illusion that we are not alone"

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                                    • needthosepylons@lemmy.worldN [email protected]

                                      Even better if you can provide your own understanding of its meaning.

                                      Mine would be :

                                      "Nothing kills a man as much as being forced to represent a country" (and err considering the context, I must stress it has nothing to do with the current US shitshow), by a WW1 soldier, illustrator and writer named Jacques Vaché.

                                      For me it just means being forced into representing a group (national, of course, but maybe also social, racial, sexual, professional, any kind of group) or defining one's identity only by reference to a group is to be avoided at all costs.

                                      Note : Its not the same, imho, as engaging in a collective struggle or defense against a common oppression.

                                      How about you?

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                                      “No matter where you go, there you are.”

                                      Made absolutely no sense to me when I was younger. Now, I get that it means changing one’s location or situation in an effort to avoid something doesn’t work. You’re still you, you’re there, and the problem still exists. Obviously some situations can be improved by leaving them, so the statement isn’t completely correct, but there’s plenty of truth to it.

                                      “You can never go home again” also used to bug me, because of course you can physically return to the places you grew up. But if you’ve been away a good while the place you grew up in might have changed, the people will have changed, and you will also have changed. Home will be where you have made a new life. Your old home will be like trying to put on a shoe you haven’t worn in a few years. Yeah, it fits, but it doesn’t feel right. It’s not comfortable like it used to feel. Home isn’t there anymore. I kinda envy some people that I know who never left my hometown. They have the same friends, been hanging out for years, still get together for family stuff…but at the same time I’ve experienced a shitload more than they have. My original home doesn’t exist for me anymore.

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                                        "we are born alone, we live alone, and we die alone. it is only through love and relationships that we create the illusion that we are not alone"

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                                        If the point of this one is to emphasize how no one lives your life except for you, that’s great and all but holy shit there are less depressing ways of getting that across.

                                        Humanity is a social animal. If you live your life under the guidance that loneliness is omnipresent and companionship is merely an illusion I strongly urge you to rethink the way you go about your days. Find people to talk to in person and do things with them.

                                        I think capitalism and the ruling class has desperately tried to convince everyone that they are alone because if the working class sees themself as one body the ruling class is fucked

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                                        • needthosepylons@lemmy.worldN [email protected]

                                          Even better if you can provide your own understanding of its meaning.

                                          Mine would be :

                                          "Nothing kills a man as much as being forced to represent a country" (and err considering the context, I must stress it has nothing to do with the current US shitshow), by a WW1 soldier, illustrator and writer named Jacques Vaché.

                                          For me it just means being forced into representing a group (national, of course, but maybe also social, racial, sexual, professional, any kind of group) or defining one's identity only by reference to a group is to be avoided at all costs.

                                          Note : Its not the same, imho, as engaging in a collective struggle or defense against a common oppression.

                                          How about you?

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                                          "Feelings are like children, you can't let them drive, but you can't put them in the trunk."

                                          But I feel that one has a ¨spiritual parent¨:

                                          "Educate a child so you don't have to reprimand an adult."

                                          and a ¨spiritual sibling¨:

                                          "If your only tool is a Hammer then every problem looks like a Nail."

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