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Well, I can't speak for everyone else, but I can't go back because they don't sell any small phones.

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  • R [email protected]

    I want one. Can you put a custom ROM on them?

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    per @[email protected] in another comment here:

    The old jelly pro had a decent modding community, and I definitely was able to unlock the bootloader and root it, though not sure about degoogling.

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      per @[email protected] in another comment here:

      The old jelly pro had a decent modding community, and I definitely was able to unlock the bootloader and root it, though not sure about degoogling.

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      Yeah, I can't ever find modders using the new one and I'm not willing to get an old used one.

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      • N [email protected]

        So once again instead of providing choice the market is simply phasing out things with smaller profit margins as if they planned it together in some kind of cartel.

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        Not really, even the cheap phones have large screens now. There’s no correlation anymore between price and screen size, the cheap phones just have lower quality panels.

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        • S [email protected]

          I upgraded to a Sony Xperia XZ2 compact last year. It has a 5" screen and decent capabilities, the only down side is it doesn't support 5G. For a phone that's over 5 years old, it's probably the most recent usable phone available which actually fits in my pocket.

          Seriously, don't show me a damn tablet computer and try to sell it to me as a mobile phone. If you can't make a compact phone then you're not really advancing the technology, are you?

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          If I can't use it one-handed (using ALL physical buttons and ALL parts of the screen), then it's not a phone.

          Seriously, this is how we used to define the difference between phones and tables - one-hand or two-hand use.

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          • I [email protected]

            There is. The screen is smaller, but the actual phone is bigger 🤦‍♂️

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            Wow, dumb. The last a I had was the 4a, which was notably smaller.

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            • M [email protected]

              If I can't use it one-handed (using ALL physical buttons and ALL parts of the screen), then it's not a phone.

              Seriously, this is how we used to define the difference between phones and tables - one-hand or two-hand use.

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              Right? I mean I'm still lamenting the loss of slider keyboards, typing on a screen is so damn unreliable that I was forced to turn on the auto-correction, which itself is highly unreliable and constantly changing real words while failing to fix the words where I hit a number instead of a letter (the word "9f" gets typed a LOT!). I use my phone for phone calls and sending texts, with a secondary usage as a GPS in my truck. If it can't perform one of three basic tasks then what good is it?

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                Demand also isn’t there. The iPhone SE sold ok, but the other thing to keep in mind was that it was the cheap iPhone too so it’s supposed to sell.

                If it was outselling the main model every year then they’d keep making them small. But they didn’t so they got dropped.

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                If it was outselling the main model every year then they’d keep making them small.

                Why would they do that if they make more money on the main model? It's not like you have a choice in iOS manufacturers.

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                • N [email protected]

                  So once again instead of providing choice the market is simply phasing out things with smaller profit margins as if they planned it together in some kind of cartel.

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                  I agree. I just worked there when I was younger. I no longer work there.

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                  • N [email protected]

                    I'm not really sure. what happened when it was no longer officially supported?

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                    It just stopped receiving updates, even security ones.

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                    • R [email protected]

                      Yeah, I can't ever find modders using the new one and I'm not willing to get an old used one.

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                      I am using Unihertz Jelly Star for more than a year now with custom LineageOS ROM. Works well with it. I used this guide to flash it: https://www.reddit.com/r/unihertz/comments/16sviga/unihertz_jelly_star_running_great_with_lineageos/?rdt=36027

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                        I am using Unihertz Jelly Star for more than a year now with custom LineageOS ROM. Works well with it. I used this guide to flash it: https://www.reddit.com/r/unihertz/comments/16sviga/unihertz_jelly_star_running_great_with_lineageos/?rdt=36027

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                        Nice. Actually logged in to save that post. Thanks

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                        • B [email protected]

                          I've got a 12 mini and bought it just because it was small. Had nothing else from the apple ecosystem (altho I did buy airpods with the phone cause it had no 3.5mm jack), and still bought it just because it was small. People like to point out and laugh at how tiny the phone is, but I don't care cause at least I don't have to carry around half a tablet everyday. Sad to hear they discontinued the mini line, even tho I wasn't planning on buying apple again.

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                          I’ll use my 13 mini until I literally can’t anymore. Sadly it seems like maybe Apple will release a clamshell to get back to the pocketable size but never a mini phone again. Wish the 16e used a mini chasis

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                          • S [email protected]

                            I picked the Pixel 8 because:

                            1. it runs GrapheneOS
                            2. It was a little smaller than the Pixel 8 Pro

                            If there was a smaller version available, I would've gotten that instead.

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                            I picked the Sony Xperia 1v because:
                            71mm width
                            Flagship specs (*for 2023 - Snapdragon 8 gen2 / 12gb)
                            Decent cameras
                            Sd card expandable
                            Headphone jack 3.5mm (though I haven't used it yet)
                            No glass back (solid build quality allround)
                            LineageOS support (for when vendor support runs out)
                            I got a good refurb deal in late 2024

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                              I’m clinging to my SE. It’s the last small phone made by anyone other than Chinese no-names. I will be sad when it’s no longer viable as an option.

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                              Still using mine too and it's awesome, all my coworkers also notice and compliment it.

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                              • N [email protected]

                                my Chinese tiny phone has a name, it's the Unihertz Jelly Star. they even have a subreddit, not sure what makes you think it's a "no name" they make a lot of phones for niches in today's world including one with a physical qwerty keyboard.

                                now the fact that they're the only company filling those niches sucks, but it's better than nobody doing it.

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                                Seems to not be supported by Lineage... I wonder if a more privacy-preserving OS can be installed at all? I don't teust stock ones.

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                                • S [email protected]

                                  I picked the Pixel 8 because:

                                  1. it runs GrapheneOS
                                  2. It was a little smaller than the Pixel 8 Pro

                                  If there was a smaller version available, I would've gotten that instead.

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                                  If the pixel series had a damn SD card slot it would be the perfect phone for me.

                                  I just want to sync all of my music and local backups to an SD card via syncthing dammit. I don't want to have to pay 200€ for them adding a 5€ chip

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                                    I picked the Sony Xperia 1v because:
                                    71mm width
                                    Flagship specs (*for 2023 - Snapdragon 8 gen2 / 12gb)
                                    Decent cameras
                                    Sd card expandable
                                    Headphone jack 3.5mm (though I haven't used it yet)
                                    No glass back (solid build quality allround)
                                    LineageOS support (for when vendor support runs out)
                                    I got a good refurb deal in late 2024

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                                    I picked the 5ii for similar reasons at the time.

                                    The problem is it only gets 2 years of support, so I haven't gotten an update in years. Sony is living in 2010.

                                    The fingerprint reader slowly stopped working 6 months ago via a prolific software bug that is all over forums for xperias that will never be fixed.

                                    The battery (even ONLY charging it to 80% using battery care) is horrific and the standby time is shit. It loses 1.5-2% battery per hour not being used at all now. I get maybe 4h SOT browsing (much less with video).

                                    The default camera app is crap and not even worth using...

                                    I want to try lineageOS when I get the time to see if it fixes the battery and fingerprint reader, but here in Belgium we really need access to our bank apps because almost everything is done through there.

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                                    • engineergaming@feddit.nlE [email protected]

                                      I picked the Pixel A because:

                                      1. It runs GrapheneOS
                                      2. It's slightly smaller and slightly cheaper than the normal version
                                      3. The back is plastic and not glass

                                      Glad I can use it and type on it one-handed, can't imagine using a bigger phone.

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                                      The only A series Pixel phone smaller than the Pixel 8 was the Pixel 4a.

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                                        The only A series Pixel phone smaller than the Pixel 8 was the Pixel 4a.

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                                        Pixel 8, even now that 9 is out, is still around $400 compared to 7's already huge $300.

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                                        • engineergaming@feddit.nlE [email protected]

                                          Pixel 8, even now that 9 is out, is still around $400 compared to 7's already huge $300.

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                                          That point absolutely still stands.
                                          It's just strange that since the 4a, the 2 smallest phones Google released were both not in the a series.

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