Well, I can't speak for everyone else, but I can't go back because they don't sell any small phones.
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There is. The screen is smaller, but the actual phone is bigger
️Wow, dumb. The last a I had was the 4a, which was notably smaller.
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If I can't use it one-handed (using ALL physical buttons and ALL parts of the screen), then it's not a phone.
Seriously, this is how we used to define the difference between phones and tables - one-hand or two-hand use.
Right? I mean I'm still lamenting the loss of slider keyboards, typing on a screen is so damn unreliable that I was forced to turn on the auto-correction, which itself is highly unreliable and constantly changing real words while failing to fix the words where I hit a number instead of a letter (the word "9f" gets typed a LOT!). I use my phone for phone calls and sending texts, with a secondary usage as a GPS in my truck. If it can't perform one of three basic tasks then what good is it?
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Demand also isn’t there. The iPhone SE sold ok, but the other thing to keep in mind was that it was the cheap iPhone too so it’s supposed to sell.
If it was outselling the main model every year then they’d keep making them small. But they didn’t so they got dropped.
If it was outselling the main model every year then they’d keep making them small.
Why would they do that if they make more money on the main model? It's not like you have a choice in iOS manufacturers.
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So once again instead of providing choice the market is simply phasing out things with smaller profit margins as if they planned it together in some kind of cartel.
I agree. I just worked there when I was younger. I no longer work there.
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I'm not really sure. what happened when it was no longer officially supported?
It just stopped receiving updates, even security ones.
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Yeah, I can't ever find modders using the new one and I'm not willing to get an old used one.
I am using Unihertz Jelly Star for more than a year now with custom LineageOS ROM. Works well with it. I used this guide to flash it: https://www.reddit.com/r/unihertz/comments/16sviga/unihertz_jelly_star_running_great_with_lineageos/?rdt=36027
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I am using Unihertz Jelly Star for more than a year now with custom LineageOS ROM. Works well with it. I used this guide to flash it: https://www.reddit.com/r/unihertz/comments/16sviga/unihertz_jelly_star_running_great_with_lineageos/?rdt=36027
Nice. Actually logged in to save that post. Thanks
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I've got a 12 mini and bought it just because it was small. Had nothing else from the apple ecosystem (altho I did buy airpods with the phone cause it had no 3.5mm jack), and still bought it just because it was small. People like to point out and laugh at how tiny the phone is, but I don't care cause at least I don't have to carry around half a tablet everyday. Sad to hear they discontinued the mini line, even tho I wasn't planning on buying apple again.
I’ll use my 13 mini until I literally can’t anymore. Sadly it seems like maybe Apple will release a clamshell to get back to the pocketable size but never a mini phone again. Wish the 16e used a mini chasis
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I picked the Pixel 8 because:
- it runs GrapheneOS
- It was a little smaller than the Pixel 8 Pro
If there was a smaller version available, I would've gotten that instead.
I picked the Sony Xperia 1v because:
71mm width
Flagship specs (*for 2023 - Snapdragon 8 gen2 / 12gb)
Decent cameras
Sd card expandable
Headphone jack 3.5mm (though I haven't used it yet)
No glass back (solid build quality allround)
LineageOS support (for when vendor support runs out)
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I’m clinging to my SE. It’s the last small phone made by anyone other than Chinese no-names. I will be sad when it’s no longer viable as an option.
Still using mine too and it's awesome, all my coworkers also notice and compliment it.
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my Chinese tiny phone has a name, it's the Unihertz Jelly Star. they even have a subreddit, not sure what makes you think it's a "no name" they make a lot of phones for niches in today's world including one with a physical qwerty keyboard.
now the fact that they're the only company filling those niches sucks, but it's better than nobody doing it.
Seems to not be supported by Lineage... I wonder if a more privacy-preserving OS can be installed at all? I don't teust stock ones.
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I picked the Pixel 8 because:
- it runs GrapheneOS
- It was a little smaller than the Pixel 8 Pro
If there was a smaller version available, I would've gotten that instead.
If the pixel series had a damn SD card slot it would be the perfect phone for me.
I just want to sync all of my music and local backups to an SD card via syncthing dammit. I don't want to have to pay 200€ for them adding a 5€ chip
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I picked the Sony Xperia 1v because:
71mm width
Flagship specs (*for 2023 - Snapdragon 8 gen2 / 12gb)
Decent cameras
Sd card expandable
Headphone jack 3.5mm (though I haven't used it yet)
No glass back (solid build quality allround)
LineageOS support (for when vendor support runs out)
I got a good refurb deal in late 2024I picked the 5ii for similar reasons at the time.
The problem is it only gets 2 years of support, so I haven't gotten an update in years. Sony is living in 2010.
The fingerprint reader slowly stopped working 6 months ago via a prolific software bug that is all over forums for xperias that will never be fixed.
The battery (even ONLY charging it to 80% using battery care) is horrific and the standby time is shit. It loses 1.5-2% battery per hour not being used at all now. I get maybe 4h SOT browsing (much less with video).
The default camera app is crap and not even worth using...
I want to try lineageOS when I get the time to see if it fixes the battery and fingerprint reader, but here in Belgium we really need access to our bank apps because almost everything is done through there.
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I picked the Pixel A because:
- It runs GrapheneOS
- It's slightly smaller and slightly cheaper than the normal version
- The back is plastic and not glass
Glad I can use it and type on it one-handed, can't imagine using a bigger phone.
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Pixel 8, even now that 9 is out, is still around $400 compared to 7's already huge $300.
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Pixel 8, even now that 9 is out, is still around $400 compared to 7's already huge $300.
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I picked the 5ii for similar reasons at the time.
The problem is it only gets 2 years of support, so I haven't gotten an update in years. Sony is living in 2010.
The fingerprint reader slowly stopped working 6 months ago via a prolific software bug that is all over forums for xperias that will never be fixed.
The battery (even ONLY charging it to 80% using battery care) is horrific and the standby time is shit. It loses 1.5-2% battery per hour not being used at all now. I get maybe 4h SOT browsing (much less with video).
The default camera app is crap and not even worth using...
I want to try lineageOS when I get the time to see if it fixes the battery and fingerprint reader, but here in Belgium we really need access to our bank apps because almost everything is done through there.
I had a 5 II too, used lineageOS for years, worked great. Doesn't totally solve the battery or fingerprint reader. My screen got the dreaded green lightsaber too. Nail in the coffin was Australia turning off 3G so it can't make calls anymore. (Wasn't officially sold here so they didn't bother loading it with VoLTE profiles)
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I've been using the "A" branch of the Pixel line for years now.
But I use CalyxOS so I guess you and I have to be enemies now. My name is Inigo Montoya, you use a different OS, prepare to die.
Ah man... I just installed graphene to try it ... (turns around and runs)
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Seriously though, would be nice if they could get along and share code and efforts, I'd love to try a graphene-hardened OS with sandboxed microg (instead of gsf) and datura firewall
Maybe even have the option to have microg in one profile and google play in another. One can dream -
Ah man... I just installed graphene to try it ... (turns around and runs)
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Seriously though, would be nice if they could get along and share code and efforts, I'd love to try a graphene-hardened OS with sandboxed microg (instead of gsf) and datura firewall
Maybe even have the option to have microg in one profile and google play in another. One can dreamGraphene and Calyx are two different paths to two different destinations. Graphene is for security, Calyx is for privacy.
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Graphene and Calyx are two different paths to two different destinations. Graphene is for security, Calyx is for privacy.
Yep, that's what I gather as well. I just wish we didn't have to choose, and could get both
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