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The Fediverse Isn’t the Future. It’s the Present We’ve Been Denied.

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  • A [email protected]

    I jumped over here a couple weeks ago at the request of another redditor and it's like a breath of fresh air.

    I still check out reddit for a couple subs that just don't have enough interaction over here "yet".

    I've mentioned lemmy a couple times over there and got replies like " it's just too complicated " etc. and now that I think about it they were most likely bots 🤔

    Ima go back to the cesspool and investigate

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    #79

    I’ve mentioned lemmy a couple times over there and got replies like " it’s just too complicated " etc. and now that I think about it they were most likely bots 🤔

    Ima go back to the cesspool and investigate

    Feel free to join us on [email protected]

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      Refugee here. Think I'd agree. A subconscious bias / misunderstanding we bought into

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      #80

      Welcome to Lemmy, here are a few pointers to help you settle in

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      • L [email protected]

        Here’s how you get on Instagram or Reddit or whatever:

        1. Go to whatever app store you use
        2. download
        3. enter email, username, and password
        4. verification email

        You’re done. Your voyager link is not the whole process.

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        We could maybe ask lemm.ee admins to enable automatic email verification, but then they would need to fight the unavoidable spam bots registration waves

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          I don't want to have any kind of conversation with you just here to speak my mind and make you reas it

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          #82

          Ok Mr “speak my mind,” again your comment makes no sense. You can’t get karma without commenting and posting, both of which you can do day 1

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          • blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.comB [email protected]

            We could maybe ask lemm.ee admins to enable automatic email verification, but then they would need to fight the unavoidable spam bots registration waves

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            #83

            Email verification isn’t the issue. Every platform uses that. I’m saying the above is simpler than joining the fediverse and “getting around.”

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            • ? Guest

              It told me today that Romeo and Juliet was a Romantic Comedy

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              Rofl, Romeo and Juliet is like the definition of a tragedy.

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              • S [email protected]

                maybe this place is just not for influencers - not like the corp platforms, anyway

                The things people need to build a livelihood on a platform are quality of life features. In a lot of cases, I think it's small stuff: being able to reward patrons with a tag on a specific community; automatically highlighting popular posts; making it easy to find a user's monetization page; etc.

                I think the fediverse will attract more and more people with its network effects, but probably never all of the people all of the time.

                At the moment, Lemmy is an ad-free version of Reddit missing some community and notification features. There are good political reasons to be here, but that hasn't driven a sustained increase in users.

                So we won't get critical mass for network effects by being a better Reddit.

                One to make the platform self-sustaining (or grow) is to give creators a reason to use the platform, which will give people a reason to come and stay.

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                #85

                It's not just ad-free, it's actively anti-corporate, anti-advertising, even anti-monetization. I would go so far as to say even anti-content in some ways. That's a cultural disconnect that goes beyond tooling.

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                • L [email protected]

                  And what I’m trying to say is that the big dogs don’t have quirks. They are intuitive to the point where 98% of people can figure them out in seconds the moment they look at them. They have spent billions of dollars over decades learning how to create as little friction as possible to get new users onto their platforms.

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                  #86

                  PieFed closes most of those gaps. It's not quite as fully featured as Lemmy, in particular the search function (but then again, Reddit's search doesn't work either?:-P), but it's super easy to get started on the Threadiverse.

                  For one thing, you don't even need an account or to download anything at all to start using it immediately to browse content from all across Lemmy. And the Categories of Communities featuring topic areas, which you can customize yourself and/or share with others, provide that multi-Reddit feel that people, especially from Reddit, really crave. See e.g. Arts & Crafts, and note the subheadings beneath, such as Photography. There is simply no comparison between this and e.g. the default setting for Lemmy being to only show Local content (a setting which lemmy.ml still uses today) for those without accounts.

                  Then if you decide to create an account, a wizard walks you through various settings, asking the user for their preferences and automatically subscribing to multiple communities based on the answers. Multiple types of News, multiple types of Politics, etc. Or just don't bother subscribing at all, so that it doesn't flood your Subscribed feed, yet still be able to access it immediately with the Topic Category at any time.

                  It's not perfect, but it's damn good:-). And for those who do want it, testing is underway for an app (Thunder).

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                    Honestly lemmy specifically is good enough to scratch my Reddit itch. We may not be able to post our way out of fascism, but we can certainly post our way out of the centralized, enshittified platforms like Reddit where we came from.

                    I think it's more difficult in applications where you want or have to bring a lot of friends to make the apps useful, but in the case of lemmy specifically if there's a baseline level of activity that's enough to fulfill 90% of what i used Reddit for (i.e. snarky memes and random back and forths with relative strangers).

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                    That's the spirit. Reddit and all other social media died for me during the exodus 1 1/2 years ago. Since then i go to lemmy and I'm fine. Tbh I'm not really sure if more user will not also pull commercial interests into the fediverse and if that is something I'm looking forward to, but for now, everything seems like reddit around 2010, not too big but big enough to not being out of content after scrolling for 10 mins.

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                    • blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.comB [email protected]

                      Your past comments are still available even if you switch to a new account

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                      #88

                      Migrating account would be a big upgrade.

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                        Obligatory [email protected]

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                        • cm0002@lemmy.worldC [email protected]

                          on taking control of moderating the contents. We can stop fascists posts

                          .ml tankies and right-wingers: "Wouldn't that be....CeNsOrsHiP"

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                          Can we stop it with the low effort dunks?

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                          • A [email protected]

                            Honestly lemmy specifically is good enough to scratch my Reddit itch. We may not be able to post our way out of fascism, but we can certainly post our way out of the centralized, enshittified platforms like Reddit where we came from.

                            I think it's more difficult in applications where you want or have to bring a lot of friends to make the apps useful, but in the case of lemmy specifically if there's a baseline level of activity that's enough to fulfill 90% of what i used Reddit for (i.e. snarky memes and random back and forths with relative strangers).

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                            The infrastructure is there, and most of the features are there, but the content comes from content creators and they're not here yet.

                            For example, we have grimdank, but we don't have vezimira and emmawatnot. We have users who repost their content, but they're not posting here directly.

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                            • G [email protected]

                              The infrastructure is there, and most of the features are there, but the content comes from content creators and they're not here yet.

                              For example, we have grimdank, but we don't have vezimira and emmawatnot. We have users who repost their content, but they're not posting here directly.

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                              You can be a content creator. It's not that difficult to post a meme. Content creators aren't another species.

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                              • A [email protected]

                                Honestly lemmy specifically is good enough to scratch my Reddit itch. We may not be able to post our way out of fascism, but we can certainly post our way out of the centralized, enshittified platforms like Reddit where we came from.

                                I think it's more difficult in applications where you want or have to bring a lot of friends to make the apps useful, but in the case of lemmy specifically if there's a baseline level of activity that's enough to fulfill 90% of what i used Reddit for (i.e. snarky memes and random back and forths with relative strangers).

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                                Agreed. We should take the extra time to upvote, comment, and share on this app. Cheers mate!

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