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Why don't Americans plant trees and bushes of stuff that they can eat in their houses instead of having useless grass?

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    It’s a stupid reason. Historically, if you were a peasant and had been granted access to land, you grew food or herbs. If however you were a lord, you got your food from your peasants. You had no need to grow your own food. So they could afford to grow lawns as a sign of wealth.

    This has transferred across into the modern psyche. Lawns are a way of saying “i’m so rich, i don’t have to worry about sustenance. In fact i’ll throw money at it to maintain this slab of green rather than have it provide food, or shade.”

    https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-modern-brain/202002/the-strange-psychology-the-american-lawn

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    It’s funny how this has come full circle - many people garden (in their back yards) to show they have the free time to do so.

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      HOAs say “ew no that’s for the poors” and good luck finding a house that’s not in an HOA within a reasonable commute to your job

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      Sadly, bad behavior from owners are the cause. I have several fruit trees in my backyard and the pest presence is high. If they aren't harvested and maintained the impact on your neighbors is high. I hate HOAs, but I get why they would prohibit it, and it's not a class thing, after all...you're a property owner.

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        Rodents mostly

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          There is a pretty great website called Falling fruit to map trees and other plants that you can pick from freely.

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            Littering your yard with food attracts things like rats, raccoons, squirrels, etc, which destroy property and infrastructure, spread disease, and cause injury to people and pets. I'm not saying I'm against fruit trees, but I do understand people who are. It's a legitimate concern. Some areas even have things like boars or bears which are extremely dangerous.

            I'm also curious with the way you can sue people in the US what would happen if someone becomes sick after eating one of your fruits. I imagine it varies by state.

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              This is the correct answer. So many US'isms are bourgeois / aristocratic imitation.

              Cars / wasteful transportation, lawns, sprawled out cities, high amounts of meat consumption, vacation homes / timeshares / exotic vacations, having servants, etc. These are things that are only possible for countries with huge amounts of land and resources, and not sustainable or doable for most of the world.

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              It could also be seen as rising standards of living, and aristocrats were optimizing their advantage before the standards rose for everyone due to cheap energy availability.

              Saying people consume meat to mimic the rich is a little silly.

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                Because having a big yard of grass that you have to mow every week while using up gasoline is the American dream and a flex for some reason.

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                  Probably need a permit and license

                  Wait...

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                    Littering your yard with food attracts things like rats, raccoons, squirrels, etc, which destroy property and infrastructure, spread disease, and cause injury to people and pets. I'm not saying I'm against fruit trees, but I do understand people who are. It's a legitimate concern. Some areas even have things like boars or bears which are extremely dangerous.

                    I'm also curious with the way you can sue people in the US what would happen if someone becomes sick after eating one of your fruits. I imagine it varies by state.

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                    Reading this made me even happier I don't have to live there

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                      There is a pretty great website called Falling fruit to map trees and other plants that you can pick from freely.

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                      Hey. Thank you for sharing this.

                      Websites like this are the good part of the internet.

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                        Thank you. So not having a proper garden increases the value?

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                        Correct, The value is arbitrarily tied to what the older (richer) generation wants. What they were raised on, and what they want is uniformity. They want a white picket fence, no visual obstructions on the premises, no cars visible, no individuality, and no sign that anybody in the neighborhood is insubordinate to the will of the HOA's board.

                        HOAs in my experience are universally hated by younger generations, but they can't afford houses or change anything.

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                          Littering your yard with food attracts things like rats, raccoons, squirrels, etc, which destroy property and infrastructure, spread disease, and cause injury to people and pets. I'm not saying I'm against fruit trees, but I do understand people who are. It's a legitimate concern. Some areas even have things like boars or bears which are extremely dangerous.

                          I'm also curious with the way you can sue people in the US what would happen if someone becomes sick after eating one of your fruits. I imagine it varies by state.

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                          This. Fruit trees are loads of work that most amateur gardeners don’t know how to deal with or have the time to deal with. Gardening and farming is a shitload of work and was only made cheap and easy through the marvel of modern technology. You don’t just plant shit and get to eat lol

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                            Littering your yard with food attracts things like rats, raccoons, squirrels, etc, which destroy property and infrastructure, spread disease, and cause injury to people and pets. I'm not saying I'm against fruit trees, but I do understand people who are. It's a legitimate concern. Some areas even have things like boars or bears which are extremely dangerous.

                            I'm also curious with the way you can sue people in the US what would happen if someone becomes sick after eating one of your fruits. I imagine it varies by state.

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                            Trees in general do all of those horrible things you mentioned.

                            I'm glad I don't live wherever you are.

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                              Trees in general do all of those horrible things you mentioned.

                              I'm glad I don't live wherever you are.

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                              Dropped fruit all over the ground really encourages rats though.

                              My mum got a house super cheap when I was young because it had a "rat problem" it also had a peach tree in the back yard that the owner didnt pick up after. We removed literal garbage bags of peach pits from the roof space and crawl spaces of that house and garage.

                              Chopped the peach tree down (it wasnt a healthy tree anyway) and the problem basically disappeared in days.

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                                Dropped fruit all over the ground really encourages rats though.

                                My mum got a house super cheap when I was young because it had a "rat problem" it also had a peach tree in the back yard that the owner didnt pick up after. We removed literal garbage bags of peach pits from the roof space and crawl spaces of that house and garage.

                                Chopped the peach tree down (it wasnt a healthy tree anyway) and the problem basically disappeared in days.

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                                And I've found loads of walnut shells in nooks and crannies. I'm not going to cut a black walnut down.

                                Buildings need to be built properly to exclude animals regardless.

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                                  too busy eating avocado toast

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                                    Some cities actually mandate lawns. My city has code enforcement officials who have to go around and make sure that lawns are kept to a certain standard. I live in California and at some point these codes were relaxed to deal with water shortages (go figure) so we don't actually have to maintain our lawn. It's part of practices focused around preserving high housing costs (which I think are absolutely terrible).

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                                      And I've found loads of walnut shells in nooks and crannies. I'm not going to cut a black walnut down.

                                      Buildings need to be built properly to exclude animals regardless.

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                                      Not possible. Nature finds a way.

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                                        americans already do this i see it all the time

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                                          Grass is nice. It's nice to lay on. It's nice to walk barefoot in. It's soft and cushiony. It's cool on a hot summer day.

                                          I have zero grass though. Just rocks and fruit trees.

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