Dalai Lama says successor will be born in ‘free world’ outside of China
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The religions where you chill on a stone all your life and meditate are basically the only ok religions.
Nothing wrong with meditating on a stone all your life, but where does a monk's meal come from? Who grows the food? Who weaves the cloth? If it were all just charity, that would be one thing...
Before China, Tibet was a feudal society, with the monastery at the top of the hierarchy. They wielded power; religious, political, and physical. The punishment for disobeying a monk was to have your hands cut off. And this wasn't just some ancient state of affairs, it was happening in the 20th century.
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Seemed like cognitive decline to me when he did that. My grandma started making rape allegations near her end and saying absolutely unhinged sexual nonsense.
I tend to agree. The man has worked all his live to bring Buddhism closer to the West and this was the single worst thing he did and, very likley, be the one thing that people will remember first.
After years and years of build relationships and beeing seen as a wildes positive figure. Bit of a shame, what he has to say is valid and important, at least in my opinion. But alas, this was a fucking Desaster for him. And I very much don't think he's a pedophile. But in this day and age, with all this hyper sexualisierted westerners, with its complete lack of nuance and social media, it was the worst thing he could have done. China will have done everything to amplify the message to, which for sure doesn't help.
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Planning on international child trafficking this time? Quite progressive abduction policy. Fucking Catholic Buddhist child abusers. How is it they get a pass? "Oh that whole tongue sucking thing was just a joke!" SMDH
Clarification: they are the Catholicism of Buddhism in my view (read up on the history of abuses they committed, cutting off peasants hands, gouging out eyes, regularly abducting kids from families)
Catholic buddhist?
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Nothing wrong with meditating on a stone all your life, but where does a monk's meal come from? Who grows the food? Who weaves the cloth? If it were all just charity, that would be one thing...
Before China, Tibet was a feudal society, with the monastery at the top of the hierarchy. They wielded power; religious, political, and physical. The punishment for disobeying a monk was to have your hands cut off. And this wasn't just some ancient state of affairs, it was happening in the 20th century.
Now my last belief in humanity faded.
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My insane prediction:
The next Dalai Lama will be born to the one random Tibetan Buddhist family living in a small town in rural Alabama.
Of course, is I was the Lama, I would throw a curve ball and come back as transgender Nigerian woman, just to mix things up.
unlikely, he clearly said, free world.
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Is the panchen lama still imprisoned in China? How will they find the next Dalai lama?
He is most probably dead or the spirit of the Dalai Lama died in him.
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Seemed like cognitive decline to me when he did that. My grandma started making rape allegations near her end and saying absolutely unhinged sexual nonsense.
wanted to say the same, that behavior just screams loss of inhibition because of frontal brain matter loss a.k.a. dementia
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My insane prediction:
The next Dalai Lama will be born to the one random Tibetan Buddhist family living in a small town in rural Alabama.
Of course, is I was the Lama, I would throw a curve ball and come back as transgender Nigerian woman, just to mix things up.
If you ascribe to the idea that the Dalaï Llama is/was a cia operative, and a sort of bridge/conduit between the interests of East and West, this sets up quite the “lottery” for where power may shift.
Because his followers are quite far and wide, not just of “race” (and I use that very loosely), it creates a very powerful base that will follow a sort of leader.
Interesting timing, especially since his long time friend the Aga Khan just passed away.
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My insane prediction:
The next Dalai Lama will be born to the one random Tibetan Buddhist family living in a small town in rural Alabama.
Of course, is I was the Lama, I would throw a curve ball and come back as transgender Nigerian woman, just to mix things up.
Not Alabama, but there is a Lama from Minnesota
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Not Alabama, but there is a Lama from Minnesota
That doesn't rhyme tho.
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I think it's a little racist to remove agency from people who've made moves equally validly explained as self-defence and preservation against a hostile invader.
The invader was only hostile to the wealthy landowners who quite literally enslaved the people in literally feudal Tibet. Imagine if China had given international recognition to Marie Antoinette during the French Revolution, and people were treating her as a sort of government in exile. This is literally what the US is doing with the fucking Dalai Lama
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I tend to agree. The man has worked all his live to bring Buddhism closer to the West and this was the single worst thing he did and, very likley, be the one thing that people will remember first.
After years and years of build relationships and beeing seen as a wildes positive figure. Bit of a shame, what he has to say is valid and important, at least in my opinion. But alas, this was a fucking Desaster for him. And I very much don't think he's a pedophile. But in this day and age, with all this hyper sexualisierted westerners, with its complete lack of nuance and social media, it was the worst thing he could have done. China will have done everything to amplify the message to, which for sure doesn't help.
The man has worked all his live to bring Buddhism closer to the West
The man is a CIA stooge who hasn't done anything productive in his life. He's the closest you could get to an exiled Marie Antoinette crying about the rights of French people being oppressed after they kicked her out. He wants to bring back feudalism and essentially slavery to Tibet because he would be part of the few nobles reaping all the benefits.
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I didn't realise that human rights violations were justification for invasion and conquest.
Imperialism is wrong no matter who is doing to conquering or being conquered.
I didn't realise that human rights violations were justification for invasion and conquest
Dumbest take ever. The British and the Americans were right to send troops to France under Nazi rule because it was a mission to liberate French people. The USSR was right to send troops to Czechoslovakia to liberate people from Nazi rule. China was right to send troops to Tibet to free the people from their brutal feudalistic rule.
I fucking wish that my homeland (Spain) had been "invaded" by English and French troops to fight fascism in the 30s rather than ending up with a homegrown fascist dictatorship.
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I didn't realise that human rights violations were justification for invasion and conquest
Dumbest take ever. The British and the Americans were right to send troops to France under Nazi rule because it was a mission to liberate French people. The USSR was right to send troops to Czechoslovakia to liberate people from Nazi rule. China was right to send troops to Tibet to free the people from their brutal feudalistic rule.
I fucking wish that my homeland (Spain) had been "invaded" by English and French troops to fight fascism in the 30s rather than ending up with a homegrown fascist dictatorship.
Ahh yes, a literal state of war is equivalent to an unprovoked invasion.
Wasn't expecting your dumbest take ever line to be about what you'd written. But thanks for the heads up.
I'm sorry for the harm, the scars, and legacy of fascism that Franco left.
The USSR and Germany helping him are more to blame than the UK and France not invading, but I sympathise with wishing something had been done (can't see them supporting the Communists or Anarchists though, so probably not involvement is due to seeing the Nationalists as the best of the options) . From the way that Franco's legacy and supporters are, at best merely controversial does make me think that it'd've been a very bloody and destructive continuation of the Civil War. -
The invader was only hostile to the wealthy landowners who quite literally enslaved the people in literally feudal Tibet. Imagine if China had given international recognition to Marie Antoinette during the French Revolution, and people were treating her as a sort of government in exile. This is literally what the US is doing with the fucking Dalai Lama
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China invaded as part of a Tibetan civil war over the way that Amdo (or maybe Kham, can't recall which right now) was governed by Lhasa and the Dali Lama. It was hostile to the Lhasa government and partisan on the side of the faction that asked for China's help to win the war, and promised obedient vassalage in return.
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The society in pre-PRC conquest of Tibet was similar to Nepal. Yes, it involved indentured labour, but it had already began a process of legislating against many of the worst practices in the decades prior to 1951. Should (or should have) the PRC, or any nation, invade Nepal?
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Imagine if the US says that Iran, North Korea, or China's treatment of its citizens is cassus belli and annexes them after an overwhelming show of force (similar to the post WW2 vassalage of South Korea, when the USSR and USA bilaterally agreed to take split control of finally independent Korea).
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The Bourbon survivors, such as the Duke of Orleans, were literally taken in by other nations in Europe and treated as a government in exile. Can you not see how that's a logical understandable choice. Claiming the Duke of Orleans was an Austrian stooge for accepting aid from Austro-Hungary would be, I think you'd agree, ridiculous.
Edit bonus point 5:
- We can't even get good studies on Tibetan culture or history since the PRC heavily controls who has access, and requires all results to fit Dialectic Materialism with Chinese Characteristics and show unambiguously, and uncomplicatedly, that de-facto independent Tibet was hell on earth; where serfs (not peasants, nor a more complex less easily mapped onto European term people) were slaves and mutilated and/or sexually abused regularly with by evil primitive government that was peacefully liberated by 100,000 soldiers which made everything better for everyone forever.
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The man has worked all his live to bring Buddhism closer to the West
The man is a CIA stooge who hasn't done anything productive in his life. He's the closest you could get to an exiled Marie Antoinette crying about the rights of French people being oppressed after they kicked her out. He wants to bring back feudalism and essentially slavery to Tibet because he would be part of the few nobles reaping all the benefits.
Sure buddy. Sure.
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Catholic buddhist?
I think they mean "is bhuddist, acts catholic"
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My insane prediction:
The next Dalai Lama will be born to the one random Tibetan Buddhist family living in a small town in rural Alabama.
Of course, is I was the Lama, I would throw a curve ball and come back as transgender Nigerian woman, just to mix things up.
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He is most probably dead or the spirit of the Dalai Lama died in him.
It's doubtful that they killed him, he was just a kid when they took him. They have him squirrelled away somewhere, having gone through heavy indoctrination. Just waiting for the Dali Lama to die.