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ARK DLC Trailer Slammed For Being Made Entirely Through Gen AI

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  • hermit_lailoken@lemmy.worldH [email protected]

    Am I the only one that thinks AI art and videos and rad?

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    The fact that this is possible is amazing to me. The fact that the whole trailer consists of nothing from the game but dreamt up fabrications of a random number generator with lots of training is not.

    Games are an intentional art where a lot of creativity and work is put into a unique interactive medium. The AI trailer is far from that.

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    • hermit_lailoken@lemmy.worldH [email protected]

      Am I the only one that thinks AI art and videos and rad?

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      AI should be a tool, not a replacer.

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        They might just as well show a slideshow of concept art, that's all they're doing. At no point are they showing what they actually have or are going to do, just what they want to do.

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        • hermit_lailoken@lemmy.worldH [email protected]

          Am I the only one that thinks AI art and videos and rad?

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          Intent is critical for my enjoyment of art. What makes art wonderful is that it lets you connect with another human being, get a glimpse into their mind, see their perspective, feel their feelings.

          Gen AI as it exists today has no intent, so I have no interest in it.

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          • hermit_lailoken@lemmy.worldH [email protected]

            Am I the only one that thinks AI art and videos and rad?

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            Generative AI "art" is incredibly useful for small creators to prototype works. Whether that is storyboarding/previs or making a presentation to show investors.

            Once that work is ready to be shown to the public? All work must have an actual creator. Whether that is an asset pack you purchased because it is "close enough" or an artist that you contracted/hired.

            But also? Studio Wildcard (the company behind Ark) is very established and have been making games for over a decade at this point. They should have artists on staff who are already familiar with the style and design bibles of the Ark universe.

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            • hermit_lailoken@lemmy.worldH [email protected]

              Am I the only one that thinks AI art and videos and rad?

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              It's because you didn't spend a significant portion of your life learning how to create things from, for lack of a better term, your soul, and then had a machine suddenly rip it all away from you. There are good things and bad things about gen-AI.

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              • hermit_lailoken@lemmy.worldH [email protected]

                Am I the only one that thinks AI art and videos and rad?

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                What's rad about a character holding a gun with three hands? It's insulting to professional artists and the player base alike.

                GenAI videos can be fun to use as inspiration, but you don't collect a reel of shitty animations and call it a trailer. I don't even play ARK and I feel bad for the players. They got served a shit sandwich.

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                  I bought ARK, I played many hours, and the day they launched a paid DLC to an Early Access game was the day I uninstalled it forever

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                  • hermit_lailoken@lemmy.worldH [email protected]

                    Am I the only one that thinks AI art and videos and rad?

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                    Good AI art should be completely invisible, like when romcom movies with "no CG" are actually changing the entire sky and no one realizes. People were able to spot the flaws here instantly.

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                      Generative AI "art" is incredibly useful for small creators to prototype works. Whether that is storyboarding/previs or making a presentation to show investors.

                      Once that work is ready to be shown to the public? All work must have an actual creator. Whether that is an asset pack you purchased because it is "close enough" or an artist that you contracted/hired.

                      But also? Studio Wildcard (the company behind Ark) is very established and have been making games for over a decade at this point. They should have artists on staff who are already familiar with the style and design bibles of the Ark universe.

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                      I like the idea of mixed media with AI and hand draw/painted, or acrylic pour painting. I also like the idea of using AI for lyrical inspiration, like the cut ups process. Where words are written on paper, and they are cut up and mixed together like David Bowie, Eno, Brion Gysin, and Burroughs.

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                      • timesquirrel@kbin.melroy.orgT [email protected]

                        It's because you didn't spend a significant portion of your life learning how to create things from, for lack of a better term, your soul, and then had a machine suddenly rip it all away from you. There are good things and bad things about gen-AI.

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                        AI music is ass, so I can see what you mean about soullessness. This reminds me off Mass Effect 3, when they used AI for the faces and they were uncanny. They hand to use a human touch to improve the facial gestures.

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                        • donuts@lemmy.worldD [email protected]

                          What's rad about a character holding a gun with three hands? It's insulting to professional artists and the player base alike.

                          GenAI videos can be fun to use as inspiration, but you don't collect a reel of shitty animations and call it a trailer. I don't even play ARK and I feel bad for the players. They got served a shit sandwich.

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                          Good point about the 3 hands.

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                          • icecreamtaco@lemmy.worldI [email protected]

                            Good AI art should be completely invisible, like when romcom movies with "no CG" are actually changing the entire sky and no one realizes. People were able to spot the flaws here instantly.

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                            I see, thank you for sharing your perspective with me.

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                              Don't really care that it's genAI but It's really weird that the only part of the trailer that's obviously gameplay is the first few seconds...

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                                It’s like this VLDL video. They faked a whole game to get pre-sales: https://youtu.be/UfH3flBwfcs

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                                • hermit_lailoken@lemmy.worldH [email protected]

                                  Am I the only one that thinks AI art and videos and rad?

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                                  They're cool, but using them to sell a product is bullshit

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                                  • hermit_lailoken@lemmy.worldH [email protected]

                                    AI music is ass, so I can see what you mean about soullessness. This reminds me off Mass Effect 3, when they used AI for the faces and they were uncanny. They hand to use a human touch to improve the facial gestures.

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                                    Huh? That didn't happen with Mass Effect 3. The game released in 2012.

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                                      Huh? That didn't happen with Mass Effect 3. The game released in 2012.

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                                      I meant Andromeda, now that I think about it. They used some program that made the faces odd. I assume it was AI, I could be wrong.

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                                        anything ai generated just feels deeply wrong if its supposed to be anything other than wanting to see how some idea might look like. I dont listen to much music so ai generated music can sound pretty good to me, but even then I still notice that there is no unifying idea in the background, just bunch of random threads that go nowhere. There is no reason for anything to be there in ai generated content because there can't be any reason since ai can't do anything by itself. Its so stupid they even call it ai because there is no intelligence involved.

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                                          Gen AI sounds like what's coming after Gen alpha.

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