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A big part of learning Linux is screwing up computers and starting over.

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    My crippled kernel count is around 6, how about yours?

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    Another big part is learning how to set it up in a way that it's functional and productive the first time and then STOP FUCKING WITH IT.

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      My crippled kernel count is around 6, how about yours?

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      i broke debian on my plex server and said fuck it and migrated to endeavor because im more familiar with arch

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      • S [email protected]

        My crippled kernel count is around 6, how about yours?

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        It do be like that, at least for the first couple years, and typically with decreasing frequency.

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        • ada@lemmy.blahaj.zoneA [email protected]

          The "starting over" part is what made it take so long for linux to "stick" with me.

          Once it became "restore from an earlier image", it was a game changer!

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          Tell me more

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            Tell me more

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            Timeshift was a gamechanger

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              They died for a reason, for yor growth

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              True, sacrifices on the altar of the God Sysadmin, and their divine mount Er'orreport

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              • badbrainstorm@lemmy.worldB [email protected]

                Timeshift was a gamechanger

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                Timeshift itself borked my shit up. I had to reinstall all registered packages to fix its fuckups..

                sudo aptitude reinstall '~i'

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                  Timeshift itself borked my shit up. I had to reinstall all registered packages to fix its fuckups..

                  sudo aptitude reinstall '~i'

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                  While only once, timeshift destroyed my bootloader. Don't update and reboot before a meeting, kids

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                    My crippled kernel count is around 6, how about yours?

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                    I used to have a side system with /home on its own partition precisely to learn different distros and setups. It makes it much easier having a partition which is retained.

                    These days, qemu is your friend for playing around with random Linux stuff.

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                      While only once, timeshift destroyed my bootloader. Don't update and reboot before a meeting, kids

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                      My test of Timeshift was pretty simple and straightforward.

                      1. Fresh install Linux Mint

                      2. Install most of the main software I wanted.

                      3. Do a Timeshift backup.

                      4. Install some extra software I didn't necessarily need, but might want to use someday.

                      5. Restore the backup from step 3.

                      Results: Everything from step 4 was still registered as installed, but almost nothing from step 4 actually worked.

                      So I brute force reinstalled everything in place, and haven't used Timeshift since. I'm perfectly comfortable using the terminal, and at worst a live boot media, to fix any issues that might come up.

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                        Timeshift itself borked my shit up. I had to reinstall all registered packages to fix its fuckups..

                        sudo aptitude reinstall '~i'

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                        I also can't get over the fact that it doesn't understand RAID or filesystems somehow.

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                        • ada@lemmy.blahaj.zoneA [email protected]

                          The "starting over" part is what made it take so long for linux to "stick" with me.

                          Once it became "restore from an earlier image", it was a game changer!

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                          The starting over part actually contributed to me continuing to use linux tbh. Trying out a new distro, figuring out how to use it, and building a new user interface each time I killed my system kept me engaged with linux beyond its utility. It functioned essentially as a way to learn about computers and as a creative outlet. I don't fuck around and find out as much as I used to but I still swap distro every year or so.

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                          • timesquirrel@kbin.melroy.orgT [email protected]

                            Another big part is learning how to set it up in a way that it's functional and productive the first time and then STOP FUCKING WITH IT.

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                            That also sounds like a good way to stop learning!

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                            • S [email protected]

                              My crippled kernel count is around 6, how about yours?

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                              Bricking hardware is a form of enrichment for me.

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                                The starting over part actually contributed to me continuing to use linux tbh. Trying out a new distro, figuring out how to use it, and building a new user interface each time I killed my system kept me engaged with linux beyond its utility. It functioned essentially as a way to learn about computers and as a creative outlet. I don't fuck around and find out as much as I used to but I still swap distro every year or so.

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                                It was similar for me, but not quite the same. The thing I hated was starting from scratch. I'm very much not a distro hopper. Back in the day, I enjoyed the challenge of trying to troubleshoot issues and get the system working again, and that kept me interested, but eventually, I'd hit a problem I couldn't resolve, and I'd have to start again from scratch, and at that point, I'd just go back to Windows.

                                Now, I still get to do the same thing. If I break it, I get to learn how I broke it and try and fix it, and I find that process compelling. But because I'm using btrfs restore points now, I don't get to the point where I have to start again from scratch. So I can work at solving it to the limit of my abilities, with confidence that if I can't work it out, it's not a huge issue.

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                                • ada@lemmy.blahaj.zoneA [email protected]

                                  The "starting over" part is what made it take so long for linux to "stick" with me.

                                  Once it became "restore from an earlier image", it was a game changer!

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                                  My game changer was circa 2014 when I broke something and got dropped to a basic shell and for the first time instead of panicking and immediately reinstalling I thought for a moment about what I had just done to break it, and undid the change manually. Wouldn't you know it booted right up like normal.

                                  The lesson here: if it broke, you probably broke it, and if you know how you broke it, you know how to fix it.

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                                    My crippled kernel count is around 6, how about yours?

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                                    I am very happy I am doing this on a ProxMox machine. So fast to flip them up again

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                                      My crippled kernel count is around 6, how about yours?

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                                      OpenSuse Tumbleweed helps because you can create a btrfs snapshot at any moment and then roll back to it if you get in trouble. And it does this automatically whenever you update the packages.

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                                        My crippled kernel count is around 6, how about yours?

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                                        I always think of Kiwi / Ozzie slang when I type chroot.

                                        Of course that's after consulting the ArchKiwi to remember how to mount it

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                                          My game changer was circa 2014 when I broke something and got dropped to a basic shell and for the first time instead of panicking and immediately reinstalling I thought for a moment about what I had just done to break it, and undid the change manually. Wouldn't you know it booted right up like normal.

                                          The lesson here: if it broke, you probably broke it, and if you know how you broke it, you know how to fix it.

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                                          100%

                                          The alternative being variations on:

                                          years experience.

                                          Please run sfc /scannow.

                                          You can find more help at [Irrelevant KB URL].

                                          Please rank me 5 stars.

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