I’m the Canadian who was detained by Ice for two weeks. It felt like I had been kidnapped
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Mechanisms to deny entry is not a visa. He thinks it is and it's not. Period. I can't believe I need to have this conversation. Twice. I'm out.
You're the guy who is saying Americans wouldn't get work permits, yet a substantial number do every year. And while guards may not do that much, there are a lot of ancillary types who likely would. HR, facilities management, construction, security systems, and others I'm sure can and have opted to work in Canada at one time or other for a variety of reasons.
So there, now you both can be wrong, too.
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Wow, what a story. The kind of thing you'd expect from a 3rd world shithole country which I guess the USA is becoming.
Nazi USA is a shithole.
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[N]o matter how flawed the system, how cruel the circumstances, humanity will always shine through.
Even in the darkest places, within the most broken systems, humanity persists. Sometimes, it reveals itself in the smallest, most unexpected acts of kindness: a shared meal, a whispered prayer, a hand reaching out in the dark. We are defined by the love we extend, the courage we summon and the truths we are willing to tell.
idk this woman, but I'm so proud of her for using this media attention to do the right thing in a horrific situation.
The pictures of letters her cellmates gave her to get to their families, the moment where a wife sees her husband in the detention cells after being separated with no contact for weeks, the dehumanizing assembly line pregnancy tests.
It's a hard fucking read, but everyone should take 10-15 minutes and read the whole thing. This is basic knowledge of the system everyone in the world should be aware of, told by someone who has less to fear in reprisals than most of the folk who manage to escape.
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You're the guy who is saying Americans wouldn't get work permits, yet a substantial number do every year. And while guards may not do that much, there are a lot of ancillary types who likely would. HR, facilities management, construction, security systems, and others I'm sure can and have opted to work in Canada at one time or other for a variety of reasons.
So there, now you both can be wrong, too.
Why do I bother but fine
At this point Canada should be playing hard ball. Ban all visas from anyone working for those companies, or anyone who delivers services to those companies for as long as they work for those companies. If they lie about who they work for, the ban is permanent and they personally are not allowed to set foot in Canada ever.
If they currently work for that company, why would they get a work or study visa for Canada. His statement was those workers specifically, as long as they are currently working there. And if they stop working there to get another job or go to school, guess what they are no longer currently working there. (I wonder if this is where you be extremely pedantic and say there can be a small overlap where they work there but apply for a visa to go to school slightly before they quit.)
You may join the other fellow and really I'm out.
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Summary
Canadian citizen Jasmine Mooney was detained by ICE for two weeks despite having a valid U.S. work visa. Stopped at the San Diego border, she was abruptly arrested, denied legal counsel, and held in freezing cells before being transferred to a private detention center.
She witnessed systemic inefficiencies, inhumane conditions, and detainees trapped in bureaucratic limbo.
After media attention and legal intervention, Mooney was released.
Her experience highlights the profit-driven nature of private detention centers and the broader failures of U.S. immigration enforcement under Trump’s administration.
Oh she's out! Neat! What about that German tattoo-artist?
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Most Americans don't even have a passport.
Right around 50-50, actually, but I'll bet you people near the borders are more likely to have one, for some crazy reason.
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never change leemy.
Okay, so at what point are we allowed call a Nazi a Nazi, huh? Is it when they Seig Heil? Because according to conservative media, no. What about when they idolize Nazis? What about when they start doing Nazi shit, dismantling due process, indefinitely detaining and disappearing people who were just trying to follow the rules like this woman? Mind you, I'm not asking for your input, Nazis never argue in good faith, I'm just calling you out on your bullshit.
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The reality became clear: Ice detention isn’t just a bureaucratic nightmare. It’s a business. These facilities are privately owned and run for profit.
Companies like CoreCivic and GEO Group receive government funding based on the number of people they detain, which is why they lobby for stricter immigration policies. It’s a lucrative business: CoreCivic made over $560m from Ice contracts in a single year. In 2024, GEO Group made more than $763m from Ice contracts.
ideal next Luigi candidates
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Summary
Canadian citizen Jasmine Mooney was detained by ICE for two weeks despite having a valid U.S. work visa. Stopped at the San Diego border, she was abruptly arrested, denied legal counsel, and held in freezing cells before being transferred to a private detention center.
She witnessed systemic inefficiencies, inhumane conditions, and detainees trapped in bureaucratic limbo.
After media attention and legal intervention, Mooney was released.
Her experience highlights the profit-driven nature of private detention centers and the broader failures of U.S. immigration enforcement under Trump’s administration.
State violence is still violence, the main difference being that it's supported by a bunch of documents containing rules for all supposedly agreed to by Society (i.e. Laws) and an set of processes (the Justice System) to supposedly make such violence only ever be exercised when required, and in a fair and proportinate way, hence why such set of processes includes things like "Innocent until proven guilty" and more generally "Due Process" (elements which the simpletons often dislike since for them Justice is as just a way to hurt people they dislike, exactly as Trump is using it).
So yeah, emprisionment differs only from kidnapping if it's done fairly and proportionatelly, which is what a functional Justice System is supposed to guarantee but often fails to, and the non-functionality of the Justice System in the US has become far too frequent, especially when it comes to non-nationals (though we also see it in the de facto immunity for the ultra rich), especially under Trump. Without the whole fairness and proportionate component, emprisionment is just kidnapping with a bit of performative (theatrical, even) folklore to make it look like the socially approved version.
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Summary
Canadian citizen Jasmine Mooney was detained by ICE for two weeks despite having a valid U.S. work visa. Stopped at the San Diego border, she was abruptly arrested, denied legal counsel, and held in freezing cells before being transferred to a private detention center.
She witnessed systemic inefficiencies, inhumane conditions, and detainees trapped in bureaucratic limbo.
After media attention and legal intervention, Mooney was released.
Her experience highlights the profit-driven nature of private detention centers and the broader failures of U.S. immigration enforcement under Trump’s administration.
We need a left wing version of the "take back our border" group to "take back our reputation" by driving to these detention centers and cutting some fences and shit.
