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China unveils a powerful deep-sea cable cutter that could reset the world order

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  • K [email protected]

    Sure, it will be a shame to lose south/central America and Canada, but nothing else of value over there.

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    #76

    most of online services run there. google, youtube, everything microsoft, credit card processing mastercard and visa, tons of others. surely they have EU infrastructure, but it's a big question how would they handle a network split, if aallt

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    • V [email protected]

      I have to get all your uninformed false starts out of the way somehow.

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      You need me to recap this exchange inception? Allow me.

      I injected myself in this as you made your opinion on how another person was racist torwards chinese in general, as they saw China, the country, as in the regime, as dangerous.

      You ascertained your moral high ground out of being well travelled and cultured, without ever addressing a single point of the other person's argument. Your concern was their apparent racism under your higher morality.

      I opted by criticizing this position of your, by clearly stating why and how someone can loathe a country's regime without having nothing against the people living there, adding in the process why I personally find America snd China's regimes parallels, although ideologically opposite.

      Again, you chose reiterating I am wrong in my views but without addressing a single point of it, except for making vague hollow observations that add nothing to the conversation, not adding counter points of information. Twice.

      I've already deemed this a closed argument. I am doing it again. Be well, have a good one.

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      • ? Guest

        I literally said that I don’t hate Chinese people, I hate the culture. That is not racist to hate „work to death“ and „be worthless unless you reach a certain social status“ etc.

        I’m sure there a nice aspects. But most of the culture seems forced and cruel. It’s all dependent on social status and that’s kinda sad. I hate that. I would hate it anywhere, not just in china. I would hate it in my country too. So how is this possibly racist? Some cultures are just worse than others.

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        #78

        You hate the culture as a whole? Or hate just the regressive/reactionary/conservative/more traditional(to a westerner) elements of it?

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        • Z [email protected]

          A compact, deep-sea, cable-cutting device, capable of severing the world’s most fortified underwater communication or power lines, has been unveiled by China – and it could shake up global maritime power dynamics.

          The revelation marks the first time any country has officially disclosed that it has such an asset, capable of disrupting critical undersea networks.

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          #79

          Reset the world order by sending everybody including China back to stone age right? That’d be fun.

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          • Q [email protected]

            You need me to recap this exchange inception? Allow me.

            I injected myself in this as you made your opinion on how another person was racist torwards chinese in general, as they saw China, the country, as in the regime, as dangerous.

            You ascertained your moral high ground out of being well travelled and cultured, without ever addressing a single point of the other person's argument. Your concern was their apparent racism under your higher morality.

            I opted by criticizing this position of your, by clearly stating why and how someone can loathe a country's regime without having nothing against the people living there, adding in the process why I personally find America snd China's regimes parallels, although ideologically opposite.

            Again, you chose reiterating I am wrong in my views but without addressing a single point of it, except for making vague hollow observations that add nothing to the conversation, not adding counter points of information. Twice.

            I've already deemed this a closed argument. I am doing it again. Be well, have a good one.

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            #80

            "You need me to recap this exchange...?"

            nope, I did that for you a couple comments above.

            "as they saw China, the country, as in the regime, as dangerous"

            you are making things up. That is not what @[email protected] said.

            @[email protected] said:

            "I hate the culture”, “I hate Chinese culturue”, “fuck China”, “I hate the whole thing”

            The whole thing, sport. The people, the culture, the whole thing.

            After I pointed out this was racist, DP was quick to change his tune, and say he hated everything about China, specifically the culture, except the people.

            Hating culture or thinking one is superior to another is racism, especially when you know so little about the culture except the people who make it up.

            Quick def for you: "Cultural racism is a concept that has been applied to prejudices and discrimination based on cultural differences between ethnic or racial groups. This includes the idea that some cultures are superior to others"

            "Your concern was their apparent racism"

            Yeah, I don't like racism so I call it out when it occurs. Usually it stems from ignorance, and they just have to be called out to be woken up.

            "criticizing this position of your,"

            not my position, you're making this up.

            " personally find America snd China’s regimes parallels,"

            absolutely absurd, as I explained above. but it's good you changed your mind here "although ideologically opposite", which is incorrect but more open-minded.

            See, all I have to do is call you guys out and you start thinking more critically.

            "without addressing a single point of it"

            Which part do you want more help on? I have a lot of time and am free to continue correcting and educating you.

            "without addressing a single point of it"

            clearly not true, and you know it:

            "except for making..."

            except for addressing every single point. Right. With verifiable knowledge. Cool.

            "I’ve already deemed this a closed argument"

            Oh, clearly, it's so closed you needed to write paragraphs rewriting yours and others' comment history.

            "Be well, have a good one."

            Thanks, I'm having a GREAT one!

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            • ? Guest

              Yeah, but that’s only as long as they target the US with their bullshit. Dictatorships don’t exactly have a history of stopping after „defeating“ their enemy. They’ll find new ones (spoiler it’s gonna be Europe).

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              Is this like how they targeted African countries economies with the Belt and Road Initiative?

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              • P [email protected]

                "That could reset the world order"

                Lmao, what hyperbolic bullshit. It's just a cable cutter. Most nations have shit like this, but thanks for letting us know in the title this is just Chinese propaganda.

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                #82

                It will shift the orders from cables to starlink. Not the best idea tho, it sucks ass

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                • Z [email protected]

                  A compact, deep-sea, cable-cutting device, capable of severing the world’s most fortified underwater communication or power lines, has been unveiled by China – and it could shake up global maritime power dynamics.

                  The revelation marks the first time any country has officially disclosed that it has such an asset, capable of disrupting critical undersea networks.

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                  If only cables can be designed to pull down ships that try to cut or anchor drag them. Maybe defensive cable around the main cable.

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                  • M [email protected]

                    Reset the world order by sending everybody including China back to stone age right? That’d be fun.

                    lustyargonianmana@lemmy.worldL This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #84

                    Well, everybody except people hooked up to Starlink and other satellite based internet

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                    • F [email protected]

                      Powerful seems like a pointless adjective here.

                      It doesn't take much power to destroy a cable. Did they invent a really long, and powerful, chain with a powerful anchor on it only usable by a boat with powerful electric winch?

                      Maybe they put AI in it too, for extra power of course

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                      Oh you mean the AI Pro Power Winch 9000? Available at a genocidal dictatorship near you for 3 easy payments of 19.99B USD.

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                      • Z [email protected]

                        A compact, deep-sea, cable-cutting device, capable of severing the world’s most fortified underwater communication or power lines, has been unveiled by China – and it could shake up global maritime power dynamics.

                        The revelation marks the first time any country has officially disclosed that it has such an asset, capable of disrupting critical undersea networks.

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                        #86

                        Please, do it

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                        • G [email protected]

                          You hate the culture as a whole? Or hate just the regressive/reactionary/conservative/more traditional(to a westerner) elements of it?

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                          Dude how many exceptions you have to make for this argument to even work tells you everything you need to know.

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                          • J [email protected]

                            It will shift the orders from cables to starlink. Not the best idea tho, it sucks ass

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                            Just wait! Then they’ll start flooding space with mini satellites. Then they’ll start dogfighting with them. 🙂

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                            • O [email protected]

                              Is this like how they targeted African countries economies with the Belt and Road Initiative?

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                              Idk. That at least has some mild benefits for the countries. In the form of investions and infrastructure.

                              Cutting cables is just an act of war it you ask me.

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                              • eezyville@sh.itjust.worksE [email protected]

                                If I had that type of technology I would not advertise it

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                                A doomsday device is useless if no one knows you have it.

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                                • b3an@lemmy.worldB [email protected]

                                  Just wait! Then they’ll start flooding space with mini satellites. Then they’ll start dogfighting with them. 🙂

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                                  You're like a day behind on the news 😄

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                                  • b3an@lemmy.worldB [email protected]

                                    Just wait! Then they’ll start flooding space with mini satellites. Then they’ll start dogfighting with them. 🙂

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                                    DOGEfighting

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                                    • C [email protected]

                                      A doomsday device is useless if no one knows you have it.

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                                      "why didn't you tell the world, eh?"

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                                      • Q [email protected]

                                        You need me to recap this exchange inception? Allow me.

                                        I injected myself in this as you made your opinion on how another person was racist torwards chinese in general, as they saw China, the country, as in the regime, as dangerous.

                                        You ascertained your moral high ground out of being well travelled and cultured, without ever addressing a single point of the other person's argument. Your concern was their apparent racism under your higher morality.

                                        I opted by criticizing this position of your, by clearly stating why and how someone can loathe a country's regime without having nothing against the people living there, adding in the process why I personally find America snd China's regimes parallels, although ideologically opposite.

                                        Again, you chose reiterating I am wrong in my views but without addressing a single point of it, except for making vague hollow observations that add nothing to the conversation, not adding counter points of information. Twice.

                                        I've already deemed this a closed argument. I am doing it again. Be well, have a good one.

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                                        #94

                                        I don't wanna get in on the whole shouting match whether China bad or China good, but DicksAndPozza was pretty explicitly not talking about the regime, but the Chinese culture and people. Which is racist.

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                                        • itslilith@lemmy.blahaj.zoneI [email protected]

                                          I don't wanna get in on the whole shouting match whether China bad or China good, but DicksAndPozza was pretty explicitly not talking about the regime, but the Chinese culture and people. Which is racist.

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                                          And what I read and understood was a loathing for the regime and social practices by it enacted onto the general populatio ln and not a generalized hatred towards the average individual. I also found there was an exageration to their words, although crude, but every person has their way to convey emotion.

                                          There are better ways to confront people on their views than to start from insult.

                                          Did my replies come out as shouting? Damn. Not what I intended.

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