What people online think I drive when I mention owning a pickup truck versus what I actually drive
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He didn't buy it for MPGs, he bought it to complain about $/gals
I don't understand I maxed out my credit to buy this thing, drive and look like a douchebag and girls STILL avoid me?!?
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I remember a time when that Frontier was considered a big truck, especially compared to Rangers and Tacomas.
Now the Rangers and Tacomas are almost as big as the Dodge in this...
My dad has a '93 ranger, the modern rangers are almost the size of the f150s of that era, and you can't even get them like a 7ft bed like he has.
The 4 cylinder manages almost 20mpg which isn't too shabby even by modern truck standards. If I could get pretty much the exact same truck with a modern engine, maybe a hybrid, it would be a no-brainer.
4wd would be nice too, his is RWD, and that thing doesn't like rain, snow, loose gravel, pretty much anything but dry asphalt when you don't have any weight in the bed.
We've gotten plenty of use out of that truck, we're not towing or hauling anything heavy, but we've moved a lot of furniture with it, picked up some small loads of bulky lumber and such from the hardware store, hauled camping gear for a bunch of kids back when I was in scouts, etc. I don't need anything bigger.
I'm kind of crossing my fingers that the maverick adds a mid gate to extend that tiny bed a bit. That would basically check all of the boxes I'm looking for. Ideally that would still be my 2nd vehicle in addition to a small EV for most of my daily commuting but I'd get enough use out of a truck like that to be worth it if I could afford and had parking space for a second car.
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unless you regularly haul things, you don’t need a truck of any size. Unless you regularly go off-road or are transporting 5+ people and a dog or more, you don’t need an SUV. You can rent one of those for the rare times you need it!
Maybe... but why not go further?
Unless you regularly transport more than 1 person, you don't need a car. You can rent one of those for the rare times you need it!
Buy a motorcycle or bike instead?
This is a shitty reductio ad absurdum because most people live in a place that rain exists and renting a car every time it rained would definitely cost you more than you would save from not paying for car gas even if it only rained once a month.
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I will somewhat disagree with the SUV comment, as my escape counts as an SUV, and I regularly fill it far past a sedan's capacity when I go grocery shopping (the savings from driving 3+hours each way to the nearest Costco far outstrips the cost in gas) and when I go camping.
And, as I camp in a tent, and have kayaks I can strap to the roof, I don't need a truck at all, because my car can get me to every campsite that a truck can get to, often easier than someone dragging a camper can.
Plus, since its a plug-in hybrid, and Canada doesn't burn fossil fuels for power, my fuel efficiency is significantly better than the average sedan in drives under 100km, and breaks even above that.
On a 60km drive, I average 2L/100km, a 100km drive I average 4.6L/100km, and on a 300km drive I average 6.6L/100km (100km/h), 7.5L/100km (110km/h), or 8.8L/100km (120km/h), which is well within what sedans average.
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I wish Canada didn't burn fossil fuels for power but as an Albertan I can promise you that we do.
Sorry, the parts of Canada that don't idolize Texas don't burn fossil fuels.
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Put a Ford Focus behind it to show what people actually need.
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Modern pickups are bad. Old pickups were fantastic for "I need to pile a bunch of (insert thing here) in the back."
But now every pickup is a massive motor for a tiny truckbed that my ford focus wagon has better hauling capacity.
My friend has a dodge ram. When his girlfriend left him, he moved out and i helped him move. I asked if i should bring my bus that i use for work. He said nah, DODgE RAM. We drove 4 times just to move his sofa and his side table. Piece by piece. All of his stuff would've fit in my bus and maybe something on his pickup. And my bus was still a bit shorter, because he couldn't fit on his new parking spot, but i did.
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This is a shitty reductio ad absurdum because most people live in a place that rain exists and renting a car every time it rained would definitely cost you more than you would save from not paying for car gas even if it only rained once a month.
Just throwing it out there that rain gear exists and you can 100 percent ride a motorcycle or a bicycle when it's raining. I think everyone would be a better driver if they had to experience getting somewhere on two wheels.
Hell, a motorcycle can generate enough electricity to power heated clothing to keep you warm even during New England winters. If there's no ice on the road I'm riding my motorcycle to work!
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Just throwing it out there that rain gear exists and you can 100 percent ride a motorcycle or a bicycle when it's raining. I think everyone would be a better driver if they had to experience getting somewhere on two wheels.
Hell, a motorcycle can generate enough electricity to power heated clothing to keep you warm even during New England winters. If there's no ice on the road I'm riding my motorcycle to work!
Hi I own only a moped and when it rains/snows:
- if it's not too severe I just wear a poncho and be a bit miserable
- if it's too severe I take a cab
the occasional cab fare is peanuts compared to what I'd be paying in gas and insurance
I rent a car/van sometimes when I need to haul stuff. Same deal
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This is a shitty reductio ad absurdum because most people live in a place that rain exists and renting a car every time it rained would definitely cost you more than you would save from not paying for car gas even if it only rained once a month.
You're a shitty reductio ad absurdum, my kid and I live in England where rain was invented and I do fine without a car.
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This is a shitty reductio ad absurdum because most people live in a place that rain exists and renting a car every time it rained would definitely cost you more than you would save from not paying for car gas even if it only rained once a month.
For more than a decade I only rode a motorcycle in Florida. I even made trips - with a passenger - to Costco. It required plenty of straps and saddlebags and a big backpack, but it was doable to get groceries in it for two people.
This was on a Triumph Scrambler, and I had added a luggage rack etc, so not something you could do easily on a stock sport bike, but you don't need a big touring bike for this kind of living, either.
The times I needed to haul something big, I rented a truck from a big box hardware store. Saved a ton of money over the years, and only now have a Prius (with a roof rack to haul stuff) because I live in a place with harsh winters. No sidecar yet, but thinking hard about it...
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The TELO Truck looks promising, I just wish any of the people showcasing it asked the CEO about the data it collects and their privacy policy.
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unless you regularly haul things, you don’t need a truck of any size. Unless you regularly go off-road or are transporting 5+ people and a dog or more, you don’t need an SUV. You can rent one of those for the rare times you need it!
Maybe... but why not go further?
Unless you regularly transport more than 1 person, you don't need a car. You can rent one of those for the rare times you need it!
Buy a motorcycle or bike instead?
I'm 3yrs into having done this, and it only works because my wife has a car so really we only got rid of the 2nd car so doesn't count.
I think it's a really valid proposal for 2nd cars but even then only if you're not needing to transport kids at multiple times
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Ford Ranger 2004 vs 2024 is like Mario before and after mushroom.
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Unpopular opinion: unless you regularly haul things, you don't need a truck of any size. Unless you regularly go off-road or are transporting 5+ people and a dog or more, you don't need an SUV. You can rent one of those for the rare times you need it! And in the meantime, you'll save gas money and pedestrian deaths will go down...
trailer for hauling and then own whatever you want for driving. Modern american trucks are just crossovers with a tiny, useless flatbed bought to appear country.
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Modern pickups are bad. Old pickups were fantastic for "I need to pile a bunch of (insert thing here) in the back."
But now every pickup is a massive motor for a tiny truckbed that my ford focus wagon has better hauling capacity.
the few local american pickups here in europe are only here because of appearances and do no off road or hauling.
The pickups that do hauling are exclusively japanese and they are all beat to shit cause they get used as designed. -
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One for hauling, towing, driving around offroad and onroad and basically doing everything in and the other for taking it to american car meets.
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Sorry that 'murican fattism has reached you
I don't mind. I'm a car guy myself, and I like them in all shapes and sizes. I'd probably drive one too if I lived in the US, but over here they're just way too big and impractical not to mention they stick out in traffic like a sore thumb and, quite frankly, make you look kind of like a douche.
It does make you a cunt by definition, since your modern stupid bright LED headlights shine STRAIGHT into the eyes and/or rear view mirror of everyone else.
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unless you regularly haul things, you don’t need a truck of any size. Unless you regularly go off-road or are transporting 5+ people and a dog or more, you don’t need an SUV. You can rent one of those for the rare times you need it!
Maybe... but why not go further?
Unless you regularly transport more than 1 person, you don't need a car. You can rent one of those for the rare times you need it!
Buy a motorcycle or bike instead?
Buy a motorcycle or bike instead?
No thanks, I choose life.
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That's how you know it's all for show. People casually forget you can rent trucks for 20 dollars a day too. "Oh well I'm glad I have it for towing and moving". Bull. How often do you tow really? And even then I'd expect it to sit at home most of the time. Moving? Once a year. Rent a truck. I go to home Depot and rent theirs when I need it.
Buying a truck like that shows you are way too worried about what people think of you, you have to feel "big", which usually means you're a small man, and probably bad with money.
People casually forget you can rent trucks for 20 dollars a day too.
Rented a big truck for my move. It was a bitch to drive, cost me 75bucks for 2 hrs (it has the 29.99 in-town advertising plastered on the side) and didn't fit more shit than a rental van of the same price.
