Trump’s spell has been broken | The US president is hurting rather than helping his ideological allies such as Nigel Farage
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There is a tendency amongst those on the political extremes to:
Silence opposing voices;
Push for, and sometimes implement the policing and criminalization of certain speech; Root out 'enemies' through witch-hunts and humiliation rituals or 'struggle sessions';
Enforce a conformity of ideas and opinions through the threat of ostracization, humiliation or violence.
Instill a culture of fear around speech or activities contrary to the 'party line.'
Amongst other things.It's really hard to respond to this, as none of those things really exist in a remotely popular context in American Progressivism. Freedom of speech has always existed (i.e. your protected from the government), however you were never free from the repercussions of what you said in a public setting. If you say something morally reprehensible, as a public figure, or even as an employee, you have to expect that there will be fallout.
"Struggle Sessions" was a Maoist/Red China thing back decades ago. Not sure why that was referenced....
"Enforce a conformity of ideas and opinions" I'm assuming is a reference to "cancel culture". As a "consumer" why am I responsible for consuming content or a product made by a controversial figure or company? There's thousands of people that are just as good, or better than someone that caught a lucky break and became famous for something. For example, Kevin Spacey, Kanye, Dixie Chicks, etc.
As far as I'm aware, there has never been a "party line" in the general population. Sure, the Democrat political party has a sort of "party line" but you can see even that's not exactly holding up as people like Sanders, AOC, and Jasmine Crockett have been trying to break that apart for the last decade.
To be frank, none of those things remotely exist as you think, they come off more as conservative talking points about how evil "progressives" are, but in reality I've never once seen anything like that either on a public front or in my personal life...ever. not trying to be insulting here, but I'm worried that you have an extremely warped view of what you think "progressives" and the "left" represent.
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Summary
Donald Trump's influence on global right-wing politics is waning as his association increasingly becomes a political liability.
In the UK, Nigel Farage's popularity has dropped, with 53% of Reform Party supporters now viewing Trump unfavorably. This shift undermines Farage’s chances of political success.
Internationally, leaders like Canada’s Pierre Poilievre and Italy’s Giorgia Meloni are distancing themselves from Trump.
Meanwhile, Trump's economic promises have faltered, with US growth forecasts down and stock markets struggling.
The fading appeal of Trumpism marks the end of his ideological hold on Westminster politics.
He's a cult leader. Cult leader's spells are only broken when they die.
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Only if you consider Marxist leninism Etc as far left. Which by all accounts you shouldn't. They have very little issue working with the other authoritarian groups such as fascists. And even straddle the line with fascism in modern day with countries like China . They are authoritarian more than anything else. I don't see actual far left groups like anarchists or left libertarians advocating any sort of authoritarianism. Just authoritarian groups.
Progresses have never outlawed language or those that use it either. I really got to say it seems like you don't know much about what you're talking about. Instead just trying to both sides things. And create some false Center. In which to feel better about yourself.
I think that left politics are more compassionate and probably better for more people, particularly working class people so I absolutely am not a centrist in that regard.
In terms of extremism/authoritarianism; everyone's susceptible to it and I don't think online discourse helps things, particularly when it comes to assumptions about others' motives and our lack of charitability.
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Maybe there should be a federal agency for making sure Americans learn things? The Bureau of Learning? No there has to be a name that's gooder than that.
Department of Getting Educated
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Summary
Donald Trump's influence on global right-wing politics is waning as his association increasingly becomes a political liability.
In the UK, Nigel Farage's popularity has dropped, with 53% of Reform Party supporters now viewing Trump unfavorably. This shift undermines Farage’s chances of political success.
Internationally, leaders like Canada’s Pierre Poilievre and Italy’s Giorgia Meloni are distancing themselves from Trump.
Meanwhile, Trump's economic promises have faltered, with US growth forecasts down and stock markets struggling.
The fading appeal of Trumpism marks the end of his ideological hold on Westminster politics.
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Yup. In several countries, including my own (Portugal), the 'far right' who tends to repeat Trump's talking points is raising red flags all over.
Poilievre in Canada, Farage in the UK, the whole AfD/Musk/Vance debacle in Germany, and so on. And many of these parties were gaining strong traction with each election. Now Trump's image association with them might as well be a radioactive label.
I don't see why AfD would have any problem with USA leadership. They both want to normalise Nazi rhetoric, and Musk is helping a lot. Same in France with the RN
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Summary
Donald Trump's influence on global right-wing politics is waning as his association increasingly becomes a political liability.
In the UK, Nigel Farage's popularity has dropped, with 53% of Reform Party supporters now viewing Trump unfavorably. This shift undermines Farage’s chances of political success.
Internationally, leaders like Canada’s Pierre Poilievre and Italy’s Giorgia Meloni are distancing themselves from Trump.
Meanwhile, Trump's economic promises have faltered, with US growth forecasts down and stock markets struggling.
The fading appeal of Trumpism marks the end of his ideological hold on Westminster politics.
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It's really hard to respond to this, as none of those things really exist in a remotely popular context in American Progressivism. Freedom of speech has always existed (i.e. your protected from the government), however you were never free from the repercussions of what you said in a public setting. If you say something morally reprehensible, as a public figure, or even as an employee, you have to expect that there will be fallout.
"Struggle Sessions" was a Maoist/Red China thing back decades ago. Not sure why that was referenced....
"Enforce a conformity of ideas and opinions" I'm assuming is a reference to "cancel culture". As a "consumer" why am I responsible for consuming content or a product made by a controversial figure or company? There's thousands of people that are just as good, or better than someone that caught a lucky break and became famous for something. For example, Kevin Spacey, Kanye, Dixie Chicks, etc.
As far as I'm aware, there has never been a "party line" in the general population. Sure, the Democrat political party has a sort of "party line" but you can see even that's not exactly holding up as people like Sanders, AOC, and Jasmine Crockett have been trying to break that apart for the last decade.
To be frank, none of those things remotely exist as you think, they come off more as conservative talking points about how evil "progressives" are, but in reality I've never once seen anything like that either on a public front or in my personal life...ever. not trying to be insulting here, but I'm worried that you have an extremely warped view of what you think "progressives" and the "left" represent.
Well, I hope you can afford me the benefit of the doubt when I say that my critque comes from a left leaning perspective. I see this kind of response a lot online, particularly in left leaning spaces: "the left's authoritarianism is a conservative conspiracy" with a generous helping of accusations of 'both sidesing.' I don't think those characterizations are true or helpful.
The general public in most western nations all more or less agree with the flagship policies of the left. Whether that be universal healthcare, freedom of choice, marriage equality etc. The question then becomes; why do people vote against their own beliefs? What is it about "The Left" that is so unappealing that people would rather vote for fascists?
It seems to me that the reason the left is doing so poorly in Europe and NA is because we've been hijacked by purity spirals, exacerbating our already greater proclivity to fracture. Our message is not reaching the people who would be inclined to vote for left leaning policies because it is drowned out by so much of the more authoritarian online discourse, some of which has spilled out into real life politics. That's not to mention our aversion to recognizing or admitting fault in our own movement. We're each like the proverbial frog in boiling water; complacent to the growing failings and dangers within our own movement because we've slowly become acclimatised to it.
The authoritarian tendencies of the left's flank are, in my opinion, partly to blame for some of what we are seeing unfold and my fear is that unless we can acknowledge and reign in some of that we will, as a society, continue to careen toward something considerably more awful than Trump, Le Pen, Farage, Poilievre, Meloni etc. The backlash to the backlash will compound and compound until society ruptures.
Of course it could be that I am entirely too pessimistic and the future will be bright and rosey.
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One clearly is though
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Nah, Texas makes too much money. Oklahoma maybe
Yeah, no. American oil might not be the biggest money these days, but if he nuked Oklahoma there would be some really pissed off oil tycoons.
On further thought, dump is absolutely dumb enough to be tricked into doing this by the rat selling it as some kind of short sale scheme and becoming the fall guy.
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Summary
Donald Trump's influence on global right-wing politics is waning as his association increasingly becomes a political liability.
In the UK, Nigel Farage's popularity has dropped, with 53% of Reform Party supporters now viewing Trump unfavorably. This shift undermines Farage’s chances of political success.
Internationally, leaders like Canada’s Pierre Poilievre and Italy’s Giorgia Meloni are distancing themselves from Trump.
Meanwhile, Trump's economic promises have faltered, with US growth forecasts down and stock markets struggling.
The fading appeal of Trumpism marks the end of his ideological hold on Westminster politics.
Trump killing off farage would be a pleasant surprise. These assholes are like Teflon men, you would think they couldn't continue after their reputations are tarnished, but they always seem to rise again.
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Trump killing off farage would be a pleasant surprise. These assholes are like Teflon men, you would think they couldn't continue after their reputations are tarnished, but they always seem to rise again.
Worst. Vampire. Ever.
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The faster, and harder, the better it will be for EVERYONE. Well, except the rich Americans
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"You're FORCING us to respect people's rights?? Definitely authoritarianism."
Holy fucking shit. I was just thinking of that voodoo guy on ATHF yesterday and I hadn't thought of that in more than a decade. Arise chicken, arise.
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Summary
Donald Trump's influence on global right-wing politics is waning as his association increasingly becomes a political liability.
In the UK, Nigel Farage's popularity has dropped, with 53% of Reform Party supporters now viewing Trump unfavorably. This shift undermines Farage’s chances of political success.
Internationally, leaders like Canada’s Pierre Poilievre and Italy’s Giorgia Meloni are distancing themselves from Trump.
Meanwhile, Trump's economic promises have faltered, with US growth forecasts down and stock markets struggling.
The fading appeal of Trumpism marks the end of his ideological hold on Westminster politics.
PP is distancing himself from Trump?? OK. He really just changes with the political wind. He has no convictions, ideologies, or principles that he’s willing to stand behind. He just spouts whatever he thinks will garner him votes. Canadians! Get out and vote on April 28th! We need an experienced and steady Captain at the helm for the rough waters ahead. VOTE CARNEY, VOTE CARNEY, VOTE CARNEY
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Seriously?
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DOGE gutting the goverment and randomly firing tens of thousands of people. Social Security at risk. The VA at risk. The Department of Education Dead. The stock market in correction territory. Consumer confidence down. People protesting at Tesla stores. Massive crowds showing up for AOC and Sanders. At war with our allies as we randomly deport people and fall into facism.
Checks approval polling for Trump - 49%
The stuff you mentioned only matters if people know how to vote in their own best interest, and they don't. All the Tesla protesters and the AOC crowds likely voted Democrat anyways. Nobody's mind has changed.
I think that can start to change in the coming months. On April 2 Trump's full tariffs are going into effect. There will be a retaliatory response from the whole world. But make no mistake. If the election were held again today Trump would still win.
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Trump killing off farage would be a pleasant surprise. These assholes are like Teflon men, you would think they couldn't continue after their reputations are tarnished, but they always seem to rise again.
'Masters of the Return' like dangerous politicians, toxic influencers, child-molesters, con artists, neighbours-from-hell, serial adulterers (to give a few examples) keep recycling the same old behaviours because behind what they do is a pathology, a closed loop with no exit ramp, a compulsion they rarely have enough insight to acknowledge or control. How do these parasites/predators keep finding victims to exploit? Because society constantly creates a supply of new victims to use. Behind every victim there is a matching pathology, usually going back to childhood abuse or neglect, that sets them up to be abused.
Thus in a society like Britain, we have a minority of sociopaths and psychopaths (1% or less), a large group of people with sub-optimal childhood experiences (some measures might say as many as 80% have poor childhoods and thus grew up to some degree vulnerable to be exploited in adult life), that leaves very few citizens who had a good enough start in life to not become either an abuser or a victim (maybe as few as 19% or one in five of us).
What is a shock to me is that the ideal of how we should be, is actually a minority experience. Few people are what we call 'normal'. Actually, 'normal' is the exception not the rule. Our politics has not kept pace with reality. We need politics to see itself as a branch of therapeutics - see it as necessary in order to heal society. Sadly, politics is one area of life which has very few 'normal' people in it - not even one in five MPs is psychologically healthy, more than 1% are sociopaths. People like that cannot fix politics any more than they can fix their own pathologies. Starmer and his Cabinet are same as Farage and Reform, in that they are not mentally healthy and not offering the kind of politics we actually need.
If I had to guess, I'd say this level of pathology is required by capitalism and will only end if we curtail capitalism to protect ourselves i.e. capitalism harms us in childhood, we grow up exploitable, and capitalism duly exploits us - ultimately it is profitable to hurt kids. To be able to exploit people capitalism requires a supply of sociopaths, so such people are not just tolerated under capitalism but promoted into powerful positions and weaponised to exploit the rest. The good news is that just by being normal, giving your kids and others close to you a healthy, well-nurtured, psychologically normal life - being just normal humans, good mams and dads, happy kids - is actually radical politics and helps the push back against tyranny. I reckon this is one deep reason why capitalists hate stuff that promotes good human relations e.g. woke stuff, gender politics, trans rights, stuff that heals and empowers 'ordinary people' who would otherwise have just been victims. A happy child will not grow up to be anyone's doormat. That's the hidden revolution going on right now.
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In Britain our most powerful parties are competing to kiss Trump's massive arse - our Prime Minister 'likes and respects Trump'. Honestly, Starmer, get a room! Ugh! I am sick of being shamed by my politicians.
I hope Canada elects leaders who will tell Trump to get lost. You need Zelenskyy energy. You deserve it. Give 'Uncle Spam' hell, Canada!
