How do people manage to actually get jobs through online applications (US citizen here)?
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You can always use it as goodwill for your business. Take a selfie with the cops and make a facebook post like "Another stolen phone recovered thanks to the local pd!" People eat that shit up and it gives you some legitimacy and clout, maybe even a piece in the newspaper about how you just like helping the community.
I'd be shot in the head in less than 4 hours here.
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I'm sure this must sound stupid for many, but I never get any responses, until like 3 days later when I check my spam folder and realize my scheduled interview appointment came from some random server that got deleted as spam mail.
How the hell do people get jobs online? I've only ever landed a job in person.
I never get any responses, until like 3 days later when I check my spam folder and realize my scheduled interview appointment came from some random server that got deleted as spam mail.
It sucks, but this is kinda on you. Spam filters are pretty terrible at what they do. And with everyone and their dog adding "AI" to their security tools, it's only getting worse. There is a fuckton of spam being sent to email addresses all the time. And the spammers are doing their level best to make that spam look more and more like legitimate emails. So, the terrible spam filters and crappy AI are hard pressed to filter out all the crap and not catch legitimate emails. And this problem with false positives is one of the reasons a lot of spam still sneaks through, most of the filters tend to err towards false negatives over false positives. Still, false positives will happen. If you are expecting an important email, you're going to need to dive into the cesspit which is your spam folder regularly and make sure that email didn't end up there.
As for the issues around job hunting, ya that whole process can suck. Depending on your skillset, experience and job criteria, the pool can get pretty small pretty fast. And online job hunting means that companies are getting hundreds of resumes for postings. On top of that, companies have stopped training and don't do anything to build internal talent pipelines. So, if you are earlier in your career, you get stuck in a loop of not having experience, so no one will hire you to get experience. It just sucks and I don't have an answer for you, only to keep plugging away and understand it's a numbers game. Eventually the dice will come up for you, but that "eventually" can really, really suck.
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I'm sure this must sound stupid for many, but I never get any responses, until like 3 days later when I check my spam folder and realize my scheduled interview appointment came from some random server that got deleted as spam mail.
How the hell do people get jobs online? I've only ever landed a job in person.
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I'm sure this must sound stupid for many, but I never get any responses, until like 3 days later when I check my spam folder and realize my scheduled interview appointment came from some random server that got deleted as spam mail.
How the hell do people get jobs online? I've only ever landed a job in person.
People seem to not understand that it takes persistence. We're no longer in the days where you apply and people call back. Every and any job in the past 16 years since I've been working jobs, has been because I was persistent. You have to nag back. Call them throughout the week. E-mail when you can. Just keep up the momentum.
You can't just sit there and pretend you're the only one applying for the job. Thousands and thousands of people are all after jobs just as you are and it is a competition.
On that note, you've got to make sure you resume looks good and comprehensible. You gotta list off things as whatever skills you have. As a last resort, lie what you can lie about and make it believable. Just don't lie about education, though, anybody can see through that.
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People seem to not understand that it takes persistence. We're no longer in the days where you apply and people call back. Every and any job in the past 16 years since I've been working jobs, has been because I was persistent. You have to nag back. Call them throughout the week. E-mail when you can. Just keep up the momentum.
You can't just sit there and pretend you're the only one applying for the job. Thousands and thousands of people are all after jobs just as you are and it is a competition.
On that note, you've got to make sure you resume looks good and comprehensible. You gotta list off things as whatever skills you have. As a last resort, lie what you can lie about and make it believable. Just don't lie about education, though, anybody can see through that.
I wasted 4 months of my life trying exactly that to apply for Lowe's. I not only called twice a week, I also drove there and back, twice a week, 12 miles there and 12 back.
So, looking past my wasted time on the phone, 24 miles twice a week is 48 miles a week. For about 4 months.
48 miles * 16 weeks ≈ 768 miles of wasted travel, just to nag them and try as so many others have suggested to just be persistent.
It didn't get me any fucking where. Fuck, it cost me more to try nagging them than if I would have just sat on my ass.
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I wasted 4 months of my life trying exactly that to apply for Lowe's. I not only called twice a week, I also drove there and back, twice a week, 12 miles there and 12 back.
So, looking past my wasted time on the phone, 24 miles twice a week is 48 miles a week. For about 4 months.
48 miles * 16 weeks ≈ 768 miles of wasted travel, just to nag them and try as so many others have suggested to just be persistent.
It didn't get me any fucking where. Fuck, it cost me more to try nagging them than if I would have just sat on my ass.
Do you like, not know that there's other places to apply to? Maybe your resume wasn't attractive. Again, you are competing against people whose resumes and experience could outweigh yours. It isn't just you that could be applying.
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Do you like, not know that there's other places to apply to? Maybe your resume wasn't attractive. Again, you are competing against people whose resumes and experience could outweigh yours. It isn't just you that could be applying.
The last time I sent a resumé in, it was on indeed.
My resumé reflected my history of electronics repair.
AT&T contacted me. I don't know fuckall about cellular services, and my previous employers made fucking sure I never learned, by compartmentalizing.
I was the soldering technician that can solder wires about the thickness of a human hair. WTF does that have anything to do with cellular services?
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I'm sure this must sound stupid for many, but I never get any responses, until like 3 days later when I check my spam folder and realize my scheduled interview appointment came from some random server that got deleted as spam mail.
How the hell do people get jobs online? I've only ever landed a job in person.
You just keep applying. I got my current job by applying on the website.
Also yea, check your fucking spam folder or try to make the filter less aggressive. It's not good if you're missing interviews.
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My problem with that is that Google has a fucking mind all its own and will automatically file whatever the hell it feels like as spam, and I have no clue how to change those options, especially when I have no idea what server to expect an interview schedule email to even come from.
For what it's worth, I've never once had an interview request or professional email go to spam on Google mail. Not once in like 15 years.
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You just keep applying. I got my current job by applying on the website.
Also yea, check your fucking spam folder or try to make the filter less aggressive. It's not good if you're missing interviews.
How do you even change the spam filter options?
When I started my Google account, GMail was still in beta. Where the fuck are their options?
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For what it's worth, I've never once had an interview request or professional email go to spam on Google mail. Not once in like 15 years.
Thank you for the useless information. My Google account is over 20 years old, back when GMail was still in beta testing.
How the fuck do you change the spam filter options?
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Thank you for the useless information. My Google account is over 20 years old, back when GMail was still in beta testing.
How the fuck do you change the spam filter options?
Why would I tell you after you posted such a dickhead reply?
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Why would I tell you after you posted such a dickhead reply?
Because your 'information' is completely useless and doesn't provide any answer to my question.
Apparently Google doesn't even have an answer or solution to the question either.
I'm not fucking stupid, I actually do know how to research things...
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Because your 'information' is completely useless and doesn't provide any answer to my question.
Apparently Google doesn't even have an answer or solution to the question either.
I'm not fucking stupid, I actually do know how to research things...
Ok cool man. Enjoy continuing to miss interviews I guess. Cya.
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Ok cool man. Enjoy continuing to miss interviews I guess. Cya.
Cya - Dave Mirra
Yeah, I'm a BMX rider too, bicycle and vehicle technician as well.
I don't really need an online application anyways, especially if the response is gonna be auto-filed in the trash.
Fuck Google, fuck AI. Thus far, I've gotten more regular work by just showing up in person and showing I know how to turn a wrench and get my hands dirty.
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How do you even change the spam filter options?
When I started my Google account, GMail was still in beta. Where the fuck are their options?
I use the Spam Digest addon. It sends me a daily email and i quickly glance to see if something went to spam that wasn't suppose to. I'm sure you could do this with a daily reminder. But I wouldn't.
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I do believe you misread my post in some way.
It's not that the company I applied to rejected me, quite the opposite actually. They sent me an email for a scheduled interview, but Google decided to automatically toss that email right in the spam folder.
I didn't figure that out until like 3 days after the appointment when I got a bug up my ass to actually check my spam email folder.
How the fuck did I have an opportunity to at least get an interview, yet Google basically decided to throw it in the
trashspam folder?I mean what exactly is your point? Check your spam next time maybe? If you hadn't missed the interview you might have got the job. Thats how people get jobs online, by replying to postings, scheduling interviews, and attending the interview.
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Do you have any tips? All I ever get are Indian IT companies that want to offer training attached to a 19% payback.
Make sure your skills section is filled out. That’s mostly what recruiters use to filter their searches. I’ve added a new skill before and had a message from a recruiter about that specific skill within a week.
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Make sure your skills section is filled out. That’s mostly what recruiters use to filter their searches. I’ve added a new skill before and had a message from a recruiter about that specific skill within a week.
Interesting. I haven't updated skills in a while. I'll try that next. Thanks.
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I mean what exactly is your point? Check your spam next time maybe? If you hadn't missed the interview you might have got the job. Thats how people get jobs online, by replying to postings, scheduling interviews, and attending the interview.
You're right, hindsight is 20/20. Live and learn.
In that particular case, it wouldn't have really mattered much anyways. When I filed that application, I filed for a particular location. No car, my transportation was bicycle only at the time.
Part of the application asked me if I was willing or able to travel further to other locations, to which I answered no. But sure enough, the interview was scheduled at their store like 10 miles away, not the local store I actually applied to which was only a bit over a mile away.
It wouldn't have been practical at all, like what if it's raining that morning? What if it's crazy hot outside and I arrive drenched in sweat? Even if the weather was good that particular day, the weather is always changing. I can't be expected to have reliable daily transportation that far away when I'm on a bicycle.
It's challenging enough to plan a daily scheduled bicycle trip within a 2 mile radius when there's no way to guarantee I have favorable weather conditions to ride in.
But I guess the real point of my post and question was really looking to figure out how to fix the whole issue of valid and important emails getting automatically filed as spam.
Unfortunately, according to all my research, there doesn't seem to be any way to do that, especially when I have no clue what server to expect a response email from. I mean, you'd think the email should come from the same server you filed the application on, but apparently not.
Sigh, guess you gotta dig through the trash to get a job online anymore.
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