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Organic Maps migrates to Forgejo due to GitHub account blocked by Microsoft.

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  • tea@programming.devT [email protected]

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    This is great. Now I can submit issues easier and look into contribution. Storing projects on Github is awful. The signup process is a mess.

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      Going by their Mastodon account, seems they were erroneously detected as "from a US-sanctioned region" and it took too long for said error to be resolved, so they just made the switch.

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      Given now that the US has a russian president, maybe the US should sanction itself lol

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        So a person that happens to be iving in a sanctioned country, makes them banned? Bullshit

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        I assume most Russian GitHub users use a VPN to avoid it. He has chosen not to in order to make a point.

        The real worry is what happens when the US declares sanctions on random allies in their stupid "trade war"...

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          conservative: says a racial slur

          Online Platform: bans user

          conservative: "sO mUcH fOr tHe tOlEraNt lEfT 😡"

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          Person: *makes an app for everyone to use*

          Twitter baby: "Racial slurs! Racial slurs!"

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          • xigoi@lemmy.sdf.orgX [email protected]

            How would decentralization work for an issue tracker? The issues have to be stored somewhere.

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            naturally on the instance that hosts the repo

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              You mean git inherently requires you to identify yourself?

              Huh, shock

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              git identification has nothing to do with authentication, as any sane person with git experience knows

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                1. that's really too bad, I hope that gets resolved soon
                2. that's a pretty old version of podman (4.3 looks like?); also, why have nested podman? My infra is something like this:
                Bare Metal
                ├─ Rootless Podman
                   ├─ Forgejo
                ├─ Rootless Forgejo Runner (planning to run on another machine entirely)
                   ├─ <Actions Containers Run Here>
                

                I doubt the extra level of nesting is the issue though. If your issue is networking, then maybe the version of podman is the issue, since they switched out the networking layer in 5.0. I upgraded for a related reason, though I'm still getting some odd issues (mostly w/ the DNS resolver).

                I haven't gotten to cross-compiling just yet, nor have I needed to build a docker image since my projects are very much in the testing phase. But maybe I'll give it a shot soon, since it's better to catch these types of issues before it becomes a bigger problem.

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                I agree that it is quite possibly related to the version of Podman moreso than an inherent issue. I am currently satisfied, however, and have no desire to fiddle with it any more... Or at least until Debian 13 gets released.

                My use of PinP is almost entirely for cleanliness. It allows me to more easily for me to wipe clean the build environment (clear out space, troubleshooting). It also mildly improves security as the 'untrusted' actions containers run on a separate environment from the important Forgejo container.

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                • tea@programming.devT [email protected]

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                  Boycott all US based services.

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                    I think that's bad (for my personal use) because if I accidentally commit a secret key, how do I claw it back? Basically, how would I claw anything back if it's on a blockchain aka on thousands/millions of computers already (you can't).

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                    that's already a concern. what if someone just cloned your repo? there's also plenty of people that mirror public repos to their personal forgejo server. forgejo makes it very easy.

                    the only solution to mitigate such a mistake is to
                    1) invalidate the token
                    2) remove the commit

                    In that order.

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                      when you're a corporation with billions of dollars and US politicians cost millions on the high end, you can choose to do whatever you want.

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                      "Microsoft continues to work with Russians despite sanctions due to ongoing war in Ukraine" is probably not a headline they want to see.

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                        Yes. That’s how sanctions work.

                        Part of the intention is to pressure citizens of the country for violating international law so they exert pressure on their governments to stop.

                        Another part is to remove the use of tooling to support the sanctioned nation.

                        Russia could stop the war and problem is solved. This isn’t Microsoft being the bad guy, this is Microsoft following international law.

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                        Does that work?

                        Is it right to tell random people "hey you, it's your job to break local laws and topple your dictator, we could invade you with actual trained military people but that would be inconvenient for us"?

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                          "Microsoft continues to work with Russians despite sanctions due to ongoing war in Ukraine" is probably not a headline they want to see.

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                          Of course not, but can you say that it's not convenient for them to stiffle foss alternatives to microsoft/apple/google software? many open source projects are at least partially made by russian developers.

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                            Shit. I live in Denmark. How do you download a whole github repository, commits, issues and all?

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                            you can set up a repo mirror with forgejo

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                              Seemingly one of the contributors has visited a disputed region and logged into GitHub from there. By law (export controls) Microsoft must not provide service to that place. So some automatism flagged the account and also the organic maps repo. So far so normal. But either Microsoft dragged it's feet in communicating and resolving the issue or the organic maps team was not doing their part in the process. Doesn't matter, the outcome is still worth it.

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                              By law (export controls) Microsoft must not provide service to that place. So some automatism flagged the account and also the organic maps repo. So far so normal.

                              not normal at all! don't serve the website. that is normal. but ban anyone logging in seemingly from there, on sight? that's literally "shoot first, ask later" in tech! totally abnormal, if this is the reason

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                                Lol fucking Russians deserve to be blocked everywhere

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                                  By law (export controls) Microsoft must not provide service to that place. So some automatism flagged the account and also the organic maps repo. So far so normal.

                                  not normal at all! don't serve the website. that is normal. but ban anyone logging in seemingly from there, on sight? that's literally "shoot first, ask later" in tech! totally abnormal, if this is the reason

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                                  Don't shoot the messenger. The regulations are pretty draconic. I have to ensure the training for that every year.

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                                    Russia is being sanctioned because of its aggressive war against Ukraine.

                                    Microsoft aren’t the bad guys for enforcing international sanctions.

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                                    So what about the organic map users. They should ban the contributor if they need to ban it soo bad.

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                                      I'm looking forward to the time Forgejo starts supporting Forgefed

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                                        Why aren't russian people allowed to upload code. Why does the US get to dictate everything

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                                        Microsoft is a US based company. They cannot legally make business with sanctioned entities. And since it's not profitable for them - they just made a geoblock
                                        geoblock

                                        Could MS ignore the sanctions in that case? probably

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                                        • itslilith@lemmy.blahaj.zoneI [email protected]

                                          Some contributer got flagged by US sanctions based on their IP, I think

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                                          Ironically the US is more likely to drop the sanctions before Germany, where Codeberg is based.

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