Organic Maps migrates to Forgejo due to GitHub account blocked by Microsoft.
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Yes. That’s how sanctions work.
Part of the intention is to pressure citizens of the country for violating international law so they exert pressure on their governments to stop.
Another part is to remove the use of tooling to support the sanctioned nation.
Russia could stop the war and problem is solved. This isn’t Microsoft being the bad guy, this is Microsoft following international law.
Does that work?
Is it right to tell random people "hey you, it's your job to break local laws and topple your dictator, we could invade you with actual trained military people but that would be inconvenient for us"?
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"Microsoft continues to work with Russians despite sanctions due to ongoing war in Ukraine" is probably not a headline they want to see.
Of course not, but can you say that it's not convenient for them to stiffle foss alternatives to microsoft/apple/google software? many open source projects are at least partially made by russian developers.
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Shit. I live in Denmark. How do you download a whole github repository, commits, issues and all?
you can set up a repo mirror with forgejo
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Seemingly one of the contributors has visited a disputed region and logged into GitHub from there. By law (export controls) Microsoft must not provide service to that place. So some automatism flagged the account and also the organic maps repo. So far so normal. But either Microsoft dragged it's feet in communicating and resolving the issue or the organic maps team was not doing their part in the process. Doesn't matter, the outcome is still worth it.
By law (export controls) Microsoft must not provide service to that place. So some automatism flagged the account and also the organic maps repo. So far so normal.
not normal at all! don't serve the website. that is normal. but ban anyone logging in seemingly from there, on sight? that's literally "shoot first, ask later" in tech! totally abnormal, if this is the reason
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Lol fucking Russians deserve to be blocked everywhere
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By law (export controls) Microsoft must not provide service to that place. So some automatism flagged the account and also the organic maps repo. So far so normal.
not normal at all! don't serve the website. that is normal. but ban anyone logging in seemingly from there, on sight? that's literally "shoot first, ask later" in tech! totally abnormal, if this is the reason
Don't shoot the messenger. The regulations are pretty draconic. I have to ensure the training for that every year.
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Russia is being sanctioned because of its aggressive war against Ukraine.
Microsoft aren’t the bad guys for enforcing international sanctions.
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I'm looking forward to the time Forgejo starts supporting Forgefed
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Why aren't russian people allowed to upload code. Why does the US get to dictate everything
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Some contributer got flagged by US sanctions based on their IP, I think
Ironically the US is more likely to drop the sanctions before Germany, where Codeberg is based.
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Gitea is where Forgejo forked from.
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Does that work?
Is it right to tell random people "hey you, it's your job to break local laws and topple your dictator, we could invade you with actual trained military people but that would be inconvenient for us"?
“Is it right?” Are you kidding? Yes, it’s obviously a better alternative than invading another country and killing people. It’s one of the ways we have learned, as a species, to avoid massive wars and losses of life. If you’re advocating for war as an alternative then you should fuck off and die so you don’t get other people killed in the process.
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By what standard is GitLab not a “capitalist platform”? It feels even more corporatey than GitHub. From their homepage:
GitLab is the most comprehensive AI-powered DevSecOps Platform.
Yeah but it's not Microsoft-controlled
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This was always going to jappen datahoarders we have to mirror all of github!
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Could you like, stop policing other peoples speech? I am sure they know they can say shit on the internet, they just choose not to.
Some people just like swearing, it seems. Like it makes them feel like an adult or something, I dunno. Duck it.
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So what about the organic map users. They should ban the contributor if they need to ban it soo bad.
that's practically impossible. TOR is alive and well, as if any rando in any country sanctioned by the u.s. cares.
of course they could Great China Firewall the shit out of everything and still fail.
but we're on the downward spiral, so be gleeful!
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Does that work?
Is it right to tell random people "hey you, it's your job to break local laws and topple your dictator, we could invade you with actual trained military people but that would be inconvenient for us"?
Is a strictly enforced economic sanction better than an all out regime change invasion/occupation of another sovereign country that costs the lives of millions... we'll have to get back to you on that one.
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I assume most Russian GitHub users use a VPN to avoid it. He has chosen not to in order to make a point.
The real worry is what happens when the US declares sanctions on random allies in their stupid "trade war"...
Once the US starts saying that nobody who trades with the US can deal with Canada, Denmark, Mexico, etc... then it starts to get interesting.
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I'm looking forward to the time Forgejo starts supporting Forgefed
Yeah with their recent grant it looks like it’s the next priority, that will be pretty neat:
