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  • S [email protected]

    I hadn't heard of it, and looking into quarkus just reminded me of how complicated the whole Java ecosystem is. Gross.

    Hosting Go, Rust, etc stuff is dead simple, but with Java, there's all this complexity...

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    #110

    Nothing's as bad as trying to host and maintain a Ruby on Rails app 🙂

    Docker has made a lot of it a non-issue though, since the apps are already preconfigured within the Docker image.

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      Keycloak is very much lighter actually. Can run under half a gig ram whereas authentik uses about 1GB.

      Authelia is king though in running with just about 30MB of ram.

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      That's interesting... It used to be a lot heavier.

      Authelia is definitely the lightest in terms of RAM, but it's also the lightest in terms of features. As far as I can remember, they only added OIDC support fairly recently - previously it only supported proxying.

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        Shoutout to @Estebiu for helping me appreciate the joy of docker compose. I got to set up Navidrome and it's been great!

        With that said, I have a security-related question: at what point in self-hosting am I exposed to the outside internet that warrants things like reverse proxies and other security measures? I'm currently typing router IPs (e.g. 192.168.x.x) to access the services, so is my machine exposed if the only people intending to connect are local on our wireless network?

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        To expose your stuff to the outside internet, you need to actively set port forward in your internet router, you won't do that by accident.

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        • blueether@no.lastname.nzB [email protected]

          Email...
          My wife really wants to further de-google, this means moving custom domains off gsute.

          Do I move to proton/tuta or go back to self hosting email again like I did for years until about 2010?

          If I self host, do I do it at home or on the server that runs my lemmy instance?

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          Don't go to Proton or Tuta - both are impossible to get out of basically, do not support free standards and Proton is scumy in terms of their marketing.

          Mailbox.org
          Infomaniak
          Fastmail
          Posted

          Just to name a few.

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          • T [email protected]

            What's up, what's down and what are you not sure about?

            Let us know what you set up lately, what kind of problems you currently think about or are running into, what new device you added to your homelab or what interesting service or article you found.

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            #114

            Debatting with myself and to a lesser degree what to do in terms of our homeserver situation.
            While the proxmox node has more than enough CPU and RAM capacity left, the NAS, an older Synology, is full to the brim, EOL and needs replacement.And sadly being a mini PC the proxmox node is unable to get the HDs connected.

            So something new is needed and I would rather have my setup streamlined and combine the two.

            But that is... More difficult than anticipated.
            I really would like something power saving with ECC ram that can take at least two PCI-e (SFP+ and a potential graphic card for AI later on). That can take 4,better 6 HDs. And at least one,better two NVMe.
            ...that basically means self building which I am happy with, but all current builds I calculate come out somewhere south of 2000€ (including two new HDs, as two old ones need to go).
            And that's sadly out of the financial possibility at the moment.

            If only the fucking Ugreen (DXP6800)would support ECC. While not ideal in terms of PCI-e it would be enough to do the trick.

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              What's up, what's down and what are you not sure about?

              Let us know what you set up lately, what kind of problems you currently think about or are running into, what new device you added to your homelab or what interesting service or article you found.

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              I'm moving to Podman quadlets

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                What's up, what's down and what are you not sure about?

                Let us know what you set up lately, what kind of problems you currently think about or are running into, what new device you added to your homelab or what interesting service or article you found.

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                Finally installed jellyfin when I realized I could use rclone to mount 10G of free disk space from box (with client side encryption using rclone) on my server.

                Very easy to install on Debian, but the plugins are a security nightmare. Jellyfin devs are kinda dumb.

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                  I've just set up Wireguard, so I can access my home network from everywhere, but the old laptop that I wanted to use as a server has just quit. So now I have to find a different machine

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                  Any way to do this on Android when also connected to another commercial VPN? I want both, but where only 10.X traffic goes to my personal network and the rest goes out through commercial VPN/Tor.

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                  • atheartengineer@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

                    The only feature I want that jellyfin doesn't have (or I haven't found it) is shuffle. Throwing on how it's made or mythbusters on shuffle is great background stuff.

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                    Aren't there clients that support that?

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                    • jagged_circle@feddit.nlJ [email protected]

                      Aren't there clients that support that?

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                      Maybe, i haven't seen it yet though

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                      • jagged_circle@feddit.nlJ [email protected]

                        Finally installed jellyfin when I realized I could use rclone to mount 10G of free disk space from box (with client side encryption using rclone) on my server.

                        Very easy to install on Debian, but the plugins are a security nightmare. Jellyfin devs are kinda dumb.

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                        A LOT of plugins in many projects are a huge concern. I say this as someone who ran security for an OS for a while. It's just people making bad decisions for everyone and then hand-waving the risks when questioned.

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                        • dan@upvote.auD [email protected]

                          Nothing's as bad as trying to host and maintain a Ruby on Rails app 🙂

                          Docker has made a lot of it a non-issue though, since the apps are already preconfigured within the Docker image.

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                          #121

                          Agreed, with the clear exception being PHP, which often requires configuring a web server.

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                            To expose your stuff to the outside internet, you need to actively set port forward in your internet router, you won't do that by accident.

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                            What a relief, thanks for the clarity! I have vague memories of doing that as a teenager to play various games with friends, which sounds like something risky a teenager would do 😅

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                              What's up, what's down and what are you not sure about?

                              Let us know what you set up lately, what kind of problems you currently think about or are running into, what new device you added to your homelab or what interesting service or article you found.

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                              I added a cheap PCI 4 slot NVMe expansion card and a couple of SSDs for a new pool and then migrated all the database-heavy stuff over to it. Required some use of local ZFS send/receive which I didn't know was possible, but it has gone smooth so far. Very happy with it! It no longer sounds like my HDD pool is trying to escape from hell and some of the services are much snappier, especially Bitmagnet. I'd highly recommend it as an upgrade for anyone still running purely HDDs. I thought I could get away with it but ZFS speeds are no faster than single drives and the amount of stuff I had was hammering it non-stop.

                              I also bought my own domain finally to escape the free-tier dynamic DNS woes and I can finally feel good about sharing links with other people. I slapped a file share container with disabled registrations on a sub domain. I put it all behind free tier Cloudflare to hide my server's IP, it took a little bit of learning what the different records are but so far much easier than I thought.

                              Oh, and the PI I've had running Pi-Hole v5 for god knows how long with no maintenance couldn't run Tailscale, so I wiped the entire thing to start fresh and got it up and running with Pi-Hole v6, Tailscale, and Unbound. I like having these separated from my other services as they are more critical to have at all times and I have had 100% uptime with my Pi so far. Although I chose Dietpi for my OS on a whim because it looked interesting and am not sold on it. I like that it has easy software installs with sane defaults so I probably saved time overall, but the amount of time I spent debugging the weird choices Dietpi made for basic shit like networking options really threw me off.

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                              • atheartengineer@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

                                The only feature I want that jellyfin doesn't have (or I haven't found it) is shuffle. Throwing on how it's made or mythbusters on shuffle is great background stuff.

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                                #124

                                I see it in the default WebUI, perhaps whatever app you're using doesn't support it?

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                                  What's up, what's down and what are you not sure about?

                                  Let us know what you set up lately, what kind of problems you currently think about or are running into, what new device you added to your homelab or what interesting service or article you found.

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                                  Finally starting my self hosted journey. I have everything I need I'm setting up a 6tb nas for linux iso's photos and files. And I recently got a "broken" laptop that works perfectly fine that I will use for running all my applications in proxmox such as immich, jellyfin and nextcloud. And probably many others in the near future.

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                                    A LOT of plugins in many projects are a huge concern. I say this as someone who ran security for an OS for a while. It's just people making bad decisions for everyone and then hand-waving the risks when questioned.

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                                    I dont mean the plugins themselves but the fact that there's no way to safely download a plugin.

                                    Even if the plugin really is benign, jellyfin will happily download something inauthentic and malicious befuarse there's no cryptographic signature checks

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                                    • atheartengineer@lemmy.worldA [email protected]

                                      Maybe, i haven't seen it yet though

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                                      I do it for music

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                                        What's up, what's down and what are you not sure about?

                                        Let us know what you set up lately, what kind of problems you currently think about or are running into, what new device you added to your homelab or what interesting service or article you found.

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                                        I've been fending off AI bots the last week or so; wrote about it here:

                                        https://gerowen.substack.com/p/the-ai-data-scraping-is-getting-out

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                                          I think so.

                                          It is LXD + KVM, so way more and finer tune control on lxc instances. It can run OCI images as well, so for docker instances with only a few configs and no persistent storage, it is actually quite handy. For docker instances that need pretty complicated compose files, I just run docker inside an lxc for now, until I figure that out.

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                                          Does Incus allow you to use a VM with a GUI? One thing that's nice about Proxmox is I have one VM with a very basic lxqt setup for when I need that, and I can either use remote-viewer + the spice protocol to access it or access it through the Proxmox web ui. That's been very handy.

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