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YouTube removes 'gender identity' from hate speech policy

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  • W [email protected]

    You do you, if you want to read go ahead. You are just entirely missing the point and just assuming we all consume media in a way you preconceived in your "unbroken" brain.

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    #95

    just because you watch slop and it’s associated recommendations

    just assuming we all consume media in a way you preconceived

    Try harder to not be a fucking hypocrite, dude.

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    • thegreenwizard@lemmy.zipT [email protected]

      If as many people as possible self host their own peertube, even for just your own videos, it wouldn't replace youtube completely, but it would be a giant leap in the right direction.

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      Yep that would be nice! Yunohost can make it pretty easy to install for those of us who self host. Plus this is the fediverse. Totally agree!

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      • snotflickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zoneS [email protected]

        I have watch history disabled

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        #97

        Well, that might be the cause. Kinda scary you get recommendations like that just due to no history.

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        • sortekanin@feddit.dkS [email protected]

          Well, that might be the cause. Kinda scary you get recommendations like that just due to no history.

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          #98

          Kinda scary you get recommendations like that just due to no history.

          Agreed.

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          • O [email protected]

            What international alternatives exist for YouTube? And I understand RedNote as an alternative for TikTok, but YouTube fills a little bit of a different niche.

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            #99

            There really isn't one. That's why they feel that they can do whatever they feel like. They have no real competition for the type of service they offer.

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            • ? Guest

              I don't think that's true.

              It's my understanding that by federating, you are duplicating the data from the servers you federate with on your own.

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              #100

              You might want to look more into how peertube works then.

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              • sortekanin@feddit.dkS [email protected]

                Well, that might be the cause. Kinda scary you get recommendations like that just due to no history.

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                #101

                I have it disabled too and most of my recommendations are the same. I have seen those same exact videos recommended and you can't block them on the YouTube app. Default YouTube for anyone without defined history is constantly pushing these videos.

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                  Reposting my comment another post relating to this situation

                  I mean this is just them making official how they've been acting for 2 years minimum, as much as google and youtube want to act progressive and inclusive, people still get demonetized for talking about lgbtq or women's issues, unless they are harassing them, in which case the video will stay up no matter how many of youtube's rules it breaks. For example, trans NB game critic Stephanie Sterling had multiple harassment videos against them (they listed pronouns as they/them last I checked, please correct if changed) that are still up right now, several years after upload, despite those videos exclusively attacking them for being trans/non-binary, which breaks youtube's TOS

                  Companies are not your friend.

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                    #103

                    There is one thing that is vital that is missing from peertube. Effective monetization.

                    By watching on peertube I am a drain on resources. A net negative. I'd happily pay to offset those costs and more, but I want it to be shared amongst multiple creators and hosters.

                    I don't want to just support one, I want to support most of the network for the hosting and bandwidth, and a certain amount divided amongst the creators I watch.

                    If PeerTube introduces some sort of payment / monetization solution, it might get more creators as well. Without it I can't see it growing fast enough to compete with YouTube in the near future.

                    Well.. Sooner or later the costs of Full HD compressed video will be negligible for hosting and bandwidth, so that might be when YouTube gets a real challenge. So I guess we'll see

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                    • melodiousfunk@slrpnk.netM [email protected]

                      Let me know if you find any of that trash on Nebula.

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                      #104

                      Yeah, I’m pretty sure that Nebula is all “bread tubers” and left adjacent.

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                      • I [email protected]

                        They are all stored on local hdds, in fact I have two copies locally. I said it's my cloud storage, my backup off site.

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                        #105

                        Sounds like you don't need cloud storage then.

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                        • southsamurai@sh.itjust.worksS [email protected]

                          So, sundar pinchai can be added to the list of CEOs that suck?

                          Because a lot of the time, it's weird that when the company does nasty shit, nobody names him as the head asshole in charge the way that other companies and ceos get handled.

                          The dude has been in the driver's seat for pretty much every major deterioration of Google/alphabet for years.

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                          #106

                          .

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                          • snotflickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zoneS [email protected]

                            Most of them are literally Nazis. Anytime I go to youtube and finish a video all the suggested videos to watch after are obscene "anti-woke" trash.

                            The youtube to right-wing pipeline is real.

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                            #107

                            Weird.
                            Mine is just Anime, vtuber, tech (the good kind) and edutainment (e.g. kurzgesagt, real engineering, ezc.).

                            Maybe you engage heavily in political content because I mostly avoid it like the plague.

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                            • appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.comA [email protected]

                              Weird.
                              Mine is just Anime, vtuber, tech (the good kind) and edutainment (e.g. kurzgesagt, real engineering, ezc.).

                              Maybe you engage heavily in political content because I mostly avoid it like the plague.

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                              #108

                              I have watch history disabled

                              Man how many people fail to fucking read this is literally re-enforcing my point that maybe more people need to read. This me, quoting myself, from above. Further, someone else made the same kind of comment over a half hour ago and I responded the same, noting that I had already mentioned that I have watch history disabled, so Youtube does not and cannot give me recommendations based on my watch history.

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                              • ulrich@feddit.orgU [email protected]

                                I really don't think it is.

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                                As an engineer with almost 2 decades of experience (including streaming sites)... It is.

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                                • M [email protected]

                                  There is one thing that is vital that is missing from peertube. Effective monetization.

                                  By watching on peertube I am a drain on resources. A net negative. I'd happily pay to offset those costs and more, but I want it to be shared amongst multiple creators and hosters.

                                  I don't want to just support one, I want to support most of the network for the hosting and bandwidth, and a certain amount divided amongst the creators I watch.

                                  If PeerTube introduces some sort of payment / monetization solution, it might get more creators as well. Without it I can't see it growing fast enough to compete with YouTube in the near future.

                                  Well.. Sooner or later the costs of Full HD compressed video will be negligible for hosting and bandwidth, so that might be when YouTube gets a real challenge. So I guess we'll see

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                                  #110

                                  I remember the pre-Youtube internet where we created content because it was fun or educational, not because we needed money for the task of doing so.

                                  Paying for server costs and maintaining them, sure. MetaFilter has a good system for that, they're effectively a non-profit and have a donation structure and paid admins and moderators. The rest of the people on the site, they just make good content for the sake of making good content, not because they feel the need to be paid for their time doing it.

                                  God I miss the pre-Youtube era. "Content creators" looking for a payday via advertising are a fucking cancer.

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                                  • kat@orbi.campK [email protected]

                                    As an engineer with almost 2 decades of experience (including streaming sites)... It is.

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                                    Well, we'd have to be more specific about what parts of the "user experience" we're talking about here in order to make that assessment.

                                    I'm mostly talking about discoverability, the default algorithms, the lack of federation, and a way to actually filter content by language.

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                                    • A [email protected]

                                      Sounds like you don't need cloud storage then.

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                                      Except I do, because I don't have off site storage. 3-2-1 my friend. If my house burnt down, without the cloud storage I'd lose everything. Separate local copies is good for defending against disk failure.

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                                        #113

                                        A real alternative to YouTube would be so good right now.

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                                          Reposting my comment another post relating to this situation

                                          I mean this is just them making official how they've been acting for 2 years minimum, as much as google and youtube want to act progressive and inclusive, people still get demonetized for talking about lgbtq or women's issues, unless they are harassing them, in which case the video will stay up no matter how many of youtube's rules it breaks. For example, trans NB game critic Stephanie Sterling had multiple harassment videos against them (they listed pronouns as they/them last I checked, please correct if changed) that are still up right now, several years after upload, despite those videos exclusively attacking them for being trans/non-binary, which breaks youtube's TOS

                                          Companies are not your friend.

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                                          Months ago I reported a Nazi.like a real Nazi. With a hitler pfp. And they didn't van him.
                                          This is the channel of the Nazi:
                                          https://youtube.com/channel/UCZijsnbYQawRHi-Z3DwEcTA

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