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YouTube removes 'gender identity' from hate speech policy

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  • M [email protected]

    Was yours? Commenting online isn't exactly fighting the good fight. Did you do anything to help shore up and defend anything.

    These companies face legal action from the government that was elected. A government elected who won power by spreading their shitty ideology everywhere.

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    Gosh, Melvin, what a hero you are.

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      Don't Be Evil

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      If you don't use the strikeout, you can save millions of dollar on toner/ink from not printing out an extra word at a corpo that big. I think I deserve a promotion for that insight as well, well worth the extra money!

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      • M [email protected]

        Was yours? Commenting online isn't exactly fighting the good fight. Did you do anything to help shore up and defend anything.

        These companies face legal action from the government that was elected. A government elected who won power by spreading their shitty ideology everywhere.

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        What are you doing? Why are you swinging on someone clearly with you?

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          PeerTube isn’t bad, it just has no content

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          It is kinda bad. Especially when it comes to finding content or getting noticed

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          • snotflickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zoneS [email protected]

            I remember the pre-Youtube internet where we created content because it was fun or educational, not because we needed money for the task of doing so.

            Paying for server costs and maintaining them, sure. MetaFilter has a good system for that, they're effectively a non-profit and have a donation structure and paid admins and moderators. The rest of the people on the site, they just make good content for the sake of making good content, not because they feel the need to be paid for their time doing it.

            God I miss the pre-Youtube era. "Content creators" looking for a payday via advertising are a fucking cancer.

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            People expect to pay a carpenter or a plumber for their services, why shouldn't entertainers and content creators be allowed to get paid for their work?

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            • M [email protected]

              Was yours? Commenting online isn't exactly fighting the good fight. Did you do anything to help shore up and defend anything.

              These companies face legal action from the government that was elected. A government elected who won power by spreading their shitty ideology everywhere.

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              Read your comment back to yourself.

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                Funny think about that.

                I also had it disabled, started watching a longer(ish) video, closed the video and enabled history and somehow YouTube knew how much I already watched before history was on.

                So my guess is that history off is only for the user, YouTube knows anyway, it just pretends not to store it

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                The buffer only stores one video, for direct user experience purposes only, and is wiped upon playback of a subsequent video.

                Well that’s just my assumption based on the company’s data privacy reputation (lul I grinned typing that)


                Love how aggressive Alphabet’s Google’s YouTube is after watch history’s disabled.

                WATCH HISTORY OFF!! CLICK TO ENABLE (NO RECOMMENDATIONS B/C YOU DESERVE A BLANK PAGE) OTHERWISE, AGAIN !PLEASE! !!CLICK!!

                #darkpattern

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                  Keep using uorigin for blocking as. Also use Firefox.

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                    Just your garden variety bigots and assholes then?

                    Also, I think you should read up on what facisim is and why it's being so widely used right now as highly oppressive rhetoric is being pushed from many far-right leaders throughout the world.

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                    I know exactly what fascism means, and often what the left is doing aligns better with the definition than what the right is doing. Also, let's not forget that "nazi" is a short form for "national socialism"

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                    • zomg@lemmy.worldZ [email protected]

                      Read your comment back to yourself.

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                      And did I do anything

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                        get fucked bigot

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                        Your reply and your up votes just prove what I said. You're not allowed to disagree with the rhetoric around here.

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                          Look at the latest executive order on "protecting children". They are planning for eugenics.

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                            Keep using uorigin for blocking as. Also use Firefox.

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                            And newpipe on Android.

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                            • M [email protected]

                              I'm with you on the "they're not Nazi thing"

                              I think a Lemmy is being a version targeted radicalization for certain groups.

                              But still I think you're wrong that we can separate technology from this political stuff right now. It's not separate. Technology is the medium that groups are using to spread this stuff. It's important and interesting to see how they're doing it.

                              Content should focus on the tech side of it. And also why be angry at the side that's just trying to protect their freedoms here. If it wasn't for the people trying to limit their freedoms, we'd never hear of this stuff.

                              The issue isn't people trying to identify as another gender. It's the people saying no they can't and then abusing their power and influence to do it.

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                              Sure, you can't always separate the technology from the politics, my issue was that this is what most posts around here are about. I took a look and most content comes a few accounts, and it's always about the "nazi this" and "fascist that". Is that really only thing that happens in the tech space, what Musk said and what YouTube changed in their policy?

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                                It's harder than that IMO. There are plenty alternatives to many bad things but people just don't care. Just like Linux, for the average person that's got enough shit to deal with, they don't wanna add what they perceive like a difficulty and remove comfort by having to start from scratch with less options. Also, being cut from the mainstream trends, and the general social thing.

                                Not speaking for me as I've been mostly degoogling and demicrosofting, even tho I still partly feeling like that for YouTube that's been a very valuable part of my life (yes. I do read and go outside. But please stop suggesting that to people in such threads, that's missing the point), and that I couldn't let go off yet.
                                Alternatives rn are either totally devoid of content (at least, the one I like), or paid (didn't gave a shot to Nebula, I'll browse it and see, but it might be hard to beat both my favorite creators I spent years curating, and the fact that you can find anything on any obscure thing)

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                                Yeah there are a lot of factors at play. I have YT premium because my parents still pay for a family plan even though I am out of the house so I don't think I'll be getting off YT for a while at least.

                                Nebula also doesn't have a comment section which is invaluable when someone makes a mistake or you disagree with someone on a point.

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                                  It's always a question of money. It costs money to make quality content. YouTube has content because they share ad revenue to their content providers. That expands the more popular the content is because there are more ads displayed. That revenue lets the creators expand their capabilities with better gear and stage sets. Federated networks usually depend initially on volunteers and alternative ways of earning revenue for those instances besides ads.

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                                  Kind of. I think more than that YouTube has the traffic and people go where traffic is. Especially content creators. Many content creators have patreon accounts or similar to help pay the bills. And I rarely watch YouTube without an ad blocker, which I would assume is becoming more common. Can't exactly pay creators with revenue that isn't there.

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                                    Your reply and your up votes just prove what I said. You're not allowed to disagree with the rhetoric around here.

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                                    You are welcome to disagree and people are welcome to tell you off. That's how speech works. Or should we tip to around disagreeing with you?

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                                      Your reply and your up votes just prove what I said. You're not allowed to disagree with the rhetoric around here.

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                                      Sure, if your issue is that it's okay for corporations to remove protections for hate speech towards marginalized groups, then yes, go get bent. This kind of false equivalence between normalizing hate and ostraciszing progressives for speaking out against oppression is EXACTLY what we're fighting against. What in the hell is the 'rhetoric' do you disagree with? Have empathy for lgbtq+ people? Jesus. If so, this is definitely not the place for you.

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                                        It is not selfish to want to be payed for working on something like a video that in some cases takes hundreds of man hours of work to complete

                                        Yes, it is, if your desire to get paid causes you to remain on corporate-controlled social media, to the detriment of society.

                                        Not to mention, plenty of people can and do put hundreds of hours of work into projects that they don't ask for payment for.

                                        "Content creators" who get paid through advertisements are class traitors whose interests are aligned with the capitalist class. They will fuck over society to make a buck for themselves.

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                                        Do you think the same thing about people who work for basically any company? Because they are way more directly responsible for the actions of their corporation than the average person that makes 50k a year between AdSense and sponsors.

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                                          It is not selfish to want to be payed for working on something like a video that in some cases takes hundreds of man hours of work to complete

                                          Yes, it is, if your desire to get paid causes you to remain on corporate-controlled social media, to the detriment of society.

                                          Not to mention, plenty of people can and do put hundreds of hours of work into projects that they don't ask for payment for.

                                          "Content creators" who get paid through advertisements are class traitors whose interests are aligned with the capitalist class. They will fuck over society to make a buck for themselves.

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                                          "you're not a leftist unless you have daddies money to support you wasting 100 hours on a 20m video." Certainly is... a take. But anyways, I'm not even talking about being leftist or not or whatever. I just mean, people. Period. It's not selfish to want to get paid for making something. People need money to live.

                                          Are there content creators who fucking suck? Yes. But there's also ones that don't. They're allowed to make money.

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