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  • zomg@lemmy.worldZ [email protected]

    Read your comment back to yourself.

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    And did I do anything

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      get fucked bigot

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      Your reply and your up votes just prove what I said. You're not allowed to disagree with the rhetoric around here.

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        Look at the latest executive order on "protecting children". They are planning for eugenics.

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          Keep using uorigin for blocking as. Also use Firefox.

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          And newpipe on Android.

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            I'm with you on the "they're not Nazi thing"

            I think a Lemmy is being a version targeted radicalization for certain groups.

            But still I think you're wrong that we can separate technology from this political stuff right now. It's not separate. Technology is the medium that groups are using to spread this stuff. It's important and interesting to see how they're doing it.

            Content should focus on the tech side of it. And also why be angry at the side that's just trying to protect their freedoms here. If it wasn't for the people trying to limit their freedoms, we'd never hear of this stuff.

            The issue isn't people trying to identify as another gender. It's the people saying no they can't and then abusing their power and influence to do it.

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            Sure, you can't always separate the technology from the politics, my issue was that this is what most posts around here are about. I took a look and most content comes a few accounts, and it's always about the "nazi this" and "fascist that". Is that really only thing that happens in the tech space, what Musk said and what YouTube changed in their policy?

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              It's harder than that IMO. There are plenty alternatives to many bad things but people just don't care. Just like Linux, for the average person that's got enough shit to deal with, they don't wanna add what they perceive like a difficulty and remove comfort by having to start from scratch with less options. Also, being cut from the mainstream trends, and the general social thing.

              Not speaking for me as I've been mostly degoogling and demicrosofting, even tho I still partly feeling like that for YouTube that's been a very valuable part of my life (yes. I do read and go outside. But please stop suggesting that to people in such threads, that's missing the point), and that I couldn't let go off yet.
              Alternatives rn are either totally devoid of content (at least, the one I like), or paid (didn't gave a shot to Nebula, I'll browse it and see, but it might be hard to beat both my favorite creators I spent years curating, and the fact that you can find anything on any obscure thing)

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              Yeah there are a lot of factors at play. I have YT premium because my parents still pay for a family plan even though I am out of the house so I don't think I'll be getting off YT for a while at least.

              Nebula also doesn't have a comment section which is invaluable when someone makes a mistake or you disagree with someone on a point.

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                It's always a question of money. It costs money to make quality content. YouTube has content because they share ad revenue to their content providers. That expands the more popular the content is because there are more ads displayed. That revenue lets the creators expand their capabilities with better gear and stage sets. Federated networks usually depend initially on volunteers and alternative ways of earning revenue for those instances besides ads.

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                Kind of. I think more than that YouTube has the traffic and people go where traffic is. Especially content creators. Many content creators have patreon accounts or similar to help pay the bills. And I rarely watch YouTube without an ad blocker, which I would assume is becoming more common. Can't exactly pay creators with revenue that isn't there.

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                  Your reply and your up votes just prove what I said. You're not allowed to disagree with the rhetoric around here.

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                  You are welcome to disagree and people are welcome to tell you off. That's how speech works. Or should we tip to around disagreeing with you?

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                    Your reply and your up votes just prove what I said. You're not allowed to disagree with the rhetoric around here.

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                    Sure, if your issue is that it's okay for corporations to remove protections for hate speech towards marginalized groups, then yes, go get bent. This kind of false equivalence between normalizing hate and ostraciszing progressives for speaking out against oppression is EXACTLY what we're fighting against. What in the hell is the 'rhetoric' do you disagree with? Have empathy for lgbtq+ people? Jesus. If so, this is definitely not the place for you.

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                      It is not selfish to want to be payed for working on something like a video that in some cases takes hundreds of man hours of work to complete

                      Yes, it is, if your desire to get paid causes you to remain on corporate-controlled social media, to the detriment of society.

                      Not to mention, plenty of people can and do put hundreds of hours of work into projects that they don't ask for payment for.

                      "Content creators" who get paid through advertisements are class traitors whose interests are aligned with the capitalist class. They will fuck over society to make a buck for themselves.

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                      Do you think the same thing about people who work for basically any company? Because they are way more directly responsible for the actions of their corporation than the average person that makes 50k a year between AdSense and sponsors.

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                        It is not selfish to want to be payed for working on something like a video that in some cases takes hundreds of man hours of work to complete

                        Yes, it is, if your desire to get paid causes you to remain on corporate-controlled social media, to the detriment of society.

                        Not to mention, plenty of people can and do put hundreds of hours of work into projects that they don't ask for payment for.

                        "Content creators" who get paid through advertisements are class traitors whose interests are aligned with the capitalist class. They will fuck over society to make a buck for themselves.

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                        "you're not a leftist unless you have daddies money to support you wasting 100 hours on a 20m video." Certainly is... a take. But anyways, I'm not even talking about being leftist or not or whatever. I just mean, people. Period. It's not selfish to want to get paid for making something. People need money to live.

                        Are there content creators who fucking suck? Yes. But there's also ones that don't. They're allowed to make money.

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                          As i signed up for this sub, I thought I'd be reading about technology. Actually, it seems that people here are more concerned about companies not sticking to the far left ideology, so naturally they call everyone nazis and fascists, without ever knowing what those words even mean.

                          Just because someone doesn't want to play the gender tip toe dance, doesn't mean they're nazis. But I guess that's not something that this sub is ready to face.

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                          nazis and fascists, without ever knowing what those words even mean

                          I am Jack's complete lack of self awareness

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                            Gosh, Melvin, what a hero you are.

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                            Fuckin’ Melvin

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                              It's always a question of money. It costs money to make quality content. YouTube has content because they share ad revenue to their content providers. That expands the more popular the content is because there are more ads displayed. That revenue lets the creators expand their capabilities with better gear and stage sets. Federated networks usually depend initially on volunteers and alternative ways of earning revenue for those instances besides ads.

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                              It’s even more difficult since the content has to be stored somewhere, and needs to be streamed which requires storage and processing power, with the latter needing to be able to scale so the user experience doesn’t get bogged down by new people joining.

                              The entire revenue model of compensating the host and content creator does require a rethink, but it’s hard to see how that could be done without paywalling access to host, view, and/or both of the above.

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                                Seems like you are getting downvoted, but I agree with you that nowadays people use words like nazi and fascist very loosely. I'm very sure that a large part of the people can't tell what nazi or fascist really is without looking it on Wikipedia.

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                                Seeing as you apparently need someone to look the word up for you.

                                Fascism : a populist political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual, that is associated with a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, and that is characterized by severe economic and social regimentation and by forcible suppression of opposition

                                Let's see.

                                1. Christian nationalism is a huge part of Trumps support group
                                2. Cops target brown people to attempt to deport them and Trump pardons them for ignoring court orders to stop (Joe Apaio)
                                3. Trump continues to deport people based on skin and looks without due process. Ignoring courts telling him to stop.
                                4. Trumps America first slogan is eerily similar to Hitlers slogan.
                                5. Trump is starting to isolate the US from the rest of the world (but curiously not Russia)

                                But I do agree, they're not Nazis, they're MAGA. Their own brand of fascism.

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                                  As i signed up for this sub, I thought I'd be reading about technology. Actually, it seems that people here are more concerned about companies not sticking to the far left ideology, so naturally they call everyone nazis and fascists, without ever knowing what those words even mean.

                                  Just because someone doesn't want to play the gender tip toe dance, doesn't mean they're nazis. But I guess that's not something that this sub is ready to face.

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                                  Hang on. I just scrolled down the comments list for a couple of minutes and didn't see anyone calling anyone else a Nazi or a fascist. What are you going on about?

                                  And YouTube is a company. They don't believe in anything except increasing shareholder value. It's got nothing about far left or whatever. Gender identity isn't even a far left idea, unless your Overton window is skewed.

                                  Also, you've just sort of outed yourself unnecessarily as an ignorant bigot in a left leaning community with your statement:

                                  Just because someone doesn't want to play the gender tip toe dance, doesn't mean they're nazis

                                  Of course they're not Nazis. No one's calling them a Nazi. They're calling that someone a bigot.

                                  Actually, it seems that people here are more concerned about companies not sticking to the far left ideology

                                  Actually, it's people who are concerned about companies kowtowing to a fascist regime, the Trump government.

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                                    Yeah there are a lot of factors at play. I have YT premium because my parents still pay for a family plan even though I am out of the house so I don't think I'll be getting off YT for a while at least.

                                    Nebula also doesn't have a comment section which is invaluable when someone makes a mistake or you disagree with someone on a point.

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                                    Yeesh. A paid service and they don't even have a comment section (plus there doesn't seem to be a lot of videos on a few subjects I like)? Don't wanna be a crybaby but they're really making things harder.

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                                      Your reply and your up votes just prove what I said. You're not allowed to disagree with the rhetoric around here.

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                                      No, you're definitely allowed. Otherwise you'd have had your comments removed from the public discourse.

                                      The up and downs just gauge public approval to the comment. Remember, you're also free to up and down vote to voice your disagreement.

                                      Also remember, if you think everyone around you are assholes then likely you're the asshole.

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                                        More proof Rainbow Capitalism was a lie/ad campaign to take more money from queers.

                                        I wish I could rub this in the face of every cishet who said Rainbow Capitalism was actual progress.

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                                          As i signed up for this sub, I thought I'd be reading about technology. Actually, it seems that people here are more concerned about companies not sticking to the far left ideology, so naturally they call everyone nazis and fascists, without ever knowing what those words even mean.

                                          Just because someone doesn't want to play the gender tip toe dance, doesn't mean they're nazis. But I guess that's not something that this sub is ready to face.

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                                          Womp womp, get bent and bootlick Trump in hopes he might acknowledge you for his next grift.

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