YouTube removes 'gender identity' from hate speech policy
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It's always a question of money. It costs money to make quality content. YouTube has content because they share ad revenue to their content providers. That expands the more popular the content is because there are more ads displayed. That revenue lets the creators expand their capabilities with better gear and stage sets. Federated networks usually depend initially on volunteers and alternative ways of earning revenue for those instances besides ads.
Kind of. I think more than that YouTube has the traffic and people go where traffic is. Especially content creators. Many content creators have patreon accounts or similar to help pay the bills. And I rarely watch YouTube without an ad blocker, which I would assume is becoming more common. Can't exactly pay creators with revenue that isn't there.
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Your reply and your up votes just prove what I said. You're not allowed to disagree with the rhetoric around here.
You are welcome to disagree and people are welcome to tell you off. That's how speech works. Or should we tip to around disagreeing with you?
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Your reply and your up votes just prove what I said. You're not allowed to disagree with the rhetoric around here.
Sure, if your issue is that it's okay for corporations to remove protections for hate speech towards marginalized groups, then yes, go get bent. This kind of false equivalence between normalizing hate and ostraciszing progressives for speaking out against oppression is EXACTLY what we're fighting against. What in the hell is the 'rhetoric' do you disagree with? Have empathy for lgbtq+ people? Jesus. If so, this is definitely not the place for you.
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It is not selfish to want to be payed for working on something like a video that in some cases takes hundreds of man hours of work to complete
Yes, it is, if your desire to get paid causes you to remain on corporate-controlled social media, to the detriment of society.
Not to mention, plenty of people can and do put hundreds of hours of work into projects that they don't ask for payment for.
"Content creators" who get paid through advertisements are class traitors whose interests are aligned with the capitalist class. They will fuck over society to make a buck for themselves.
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It is not selfish to want to be payed for working on something like a video that in some cases takes hundreds of man hours of work to complete
Yes, it is, if your desire to get paid causes you to remain on corporate-controlled social media, to the detriment of society.
Not to mention, plenty of people can and do put hundreds of hours of work into projects that they don't ask for payment for.
"Content creators" who get paid through advertisements are class traitors whose interests are aligned with the capitalist class. They will fuck over society to make a buck for themselves.
"you're not a leftist unless you have daddies money to support you wasting 100 hours on a 20m video." Certainly is... a take. But anyways, I'm not even talking about being leftist or not or whatever. I just mean, people. Period. It's not selfish to want to get paid for making something. People need money to live.
Are there content creators who fucking suck? Yes. But there's also ones that don't. They're allowed to make money.
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As i signed up for this sub, I thought I'd be reading about technology. Actually, it seems that people here are more concerned about companies not sticking to the far left ideology, so naturally they call everyone nazis and fascists, without ever knowing what those words even mean.
Just because someone doesn't want to play the gender tip toe dance, doesn't mean they're nazis. But I guess that's not something that this sub is ready to face.
nazis and fascists, without ever knowing what those words even mean
I am Jack's complete lack of self awareness
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Gosh, Melvin, what a hero you are.
Fuckin’ Melvin
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It's always a question of money. It costs money to make quality content. YouTube has content because they share ad revenue to their content providers. That expands the more popular the content is because there are more ads displayed. That revenue lets the creators expand their capabilities with better gear and stage sets. Federated networks usually depend initially on volunteers and alternative ways of earning revenue for those instances besides ads.
It’s even more difficult since the content has to be stored somewhere, and needs to be streamed which requires storage and processing power, with the latter needing to be able to scale so the user experience doesn’t get bogged down by new people joining.
The entire revenue model of compensating the host and content creator does require a rethink, but it’s hard to see how that could be done without paywalling access to host, view, and/or both of the above.
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Seems like you are getting downvoted, but I agree with you that nowadays people use words like nazi and fascist very loosely. I'm very sure that a large part of the people can't tell what nazi or fascist really is without looking it on Wikipedia.
Seeing as you apparently need someone to look the word up for you.
Fascism : a populist political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual, that is associated with a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, and that is characterized by severe economic and social regimentation and by forcible suppression of opposition
Let's see.
- Christian nationalism is a huge part of Trumps support group
- Cops target brown people to attempt to deport them and Trump pardons them for ignoring court orders to stop (Joe Apaio)
- Trump continues to deport people based on skin and looks without due process. Ignoring courts telling him to stop.
- Trumps America first slogan is eerily similar to Hitlers slogan.
- Trump is starting to isolate the US from the rest of the world (but curiously not Russia)
But I do agree, they're not Nazis, they're MAGA. Their own brand of fascism.
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As i signed up for this sub, I thought I'd be reading about technology. Actually, it seems that people here are more concerned about companies not sticking to the far left ideology, so naturally they call everyone nazis and fascists, without ever knowing what those words even mean.
Just because someone doesn't want to play the gender tip toe dance, doesn't mean they're nazis. But I guess that's not something that this sub is ready to face.
Hang on. I just scrolled down the comments list for a couple of minutes and didn't see anyone calling anyone else a Nazi or a fascist. What are you going on about?
And YouTube is a company. They don't believe in anything except increasing shareholder value. It's got nothing about far left or whatever. Gender identity isn't even a far left idea, unless your Overton window is skewed.
Also, you've just sort of outed yourself unnecessarily as an ignorant bigot in a left leaning community with your statement:
Just because someone doesn't want to play the gender tip toe dance, doesn't mean they're nazis
Of course they're not Nazis. No one's calling them a Nazi. They're calling that someone a bigot.
Actually, it seems that people here are more concerned about companies not sticking to the far left ideology
Actually, it's people who are concerned about companies kowtowing to a fascist regime, the Trump government.
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Yeah there are a lot of factors at play. I have YT premium because my parents still pay for a family plan even though I am out of the house so I don't think I'll be getting off YT for a while at least.
Nebula also doesn't have a comment section which is invaluable when someone makes a mistake or you disagree with someone on a point.
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Your reply and your up votes just prove what I said. You're not allowed to disagree with the rhetoric around here.
No, you're definitely allowed. Otherwise you'd have had your comments removed from the public discourse.
The up and downs just gauge public approval to the comment. Remember, you're also free to up and down vote to voice your disagreement.
Also remember, if you think everyone around you are assholes then likely you're the asshole.
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More proof Rainbow Capitalism was a lie/ad campaign to take more money from queers.
I wish I could rub this in the face of every cishet who said Rainbow Capitalism was actual progress.
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As i signed up for this sub, I thought I'd be reading about technology. Actually, it seems that people here are more concerned about companies not sticking to the far left ideology, so naturally they call everyone nazis and fascists, without ever knowing what those words even mean.
Just because someone doesn't want to play the gender tip toe dance, doesn't mean they're nazis. But I guess that's not something that this sub is ready to face.
Womp womp, get bent and bootlick Trump in hopes he might acknowledge you for his next grift.
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Most of them are literally Nazis. Anytime I go to youtube and finish a video all the suggested videos to watch after are obscene "anti-woke" trash.
The youtube to right-wing pipeline is real.
None of that has anything to do with the creators on Nebula or the Nebula platform itself.
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And newpipe on Android.
I used newpipe for a long time, currently using a fork called pipepipe. I forgot why I switched lol
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"you're not a leftist unless you have daddies money to support you wasting 100 hours on a 20m video." Certainly is... a take. But anyways, I'm not even talking about being leftist or not or whatever. I just mean, people. Period. It's not selfish to want to get paid for making something. People need money to live.
Are there content creators who fucking suck? Yes. But there's also ones that don't. They're allowed to make money.
you're not a leftist unless you have daddies money to support you wasting 100 hours on a 20m video.
I didn't say that, though. Clearly it's not worth engaging with you.
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You are welcome to disagree and people are welcome to tell you off. That's how speech works. Or should we tip to around disagreeing with you?
Of course everyone is allowed to speak their mind. But being called names for not supporting a particular point of view sounds like hate speech to me, wouldn't you agree?
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Sure, if your issue is that it's okay for corporations to remove protections for hate speech towards marginalized groups, then yes, go get bent. This kind of false equivalence between normalizing hate and ostraciszing progressives for speaking out against oppression is EXACTLY what we're fighting against. What in the hell is the 'rhetoric' do you disagree with? Have empathy for lgbtq+ people? Jesus. If so, this is definitely not the place for you.
Speaking about false equivalence, how did you came to the conclusion that just because I don't find a corporation removing gender stuff from their policies relevant from a technological stand point - makes me an LGBT hater? You seem to already have made your mind, you probably did assume that I'm a trump supporter who wanna see gays being hanged, even though I was saying that I expected more tech and less gender politics from this sub.
There are a lot of subs dedicated to LGBT, I came here for tech. Which sub would in your opinion be more appropriate for tech talk if not this one?
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Do you think the same thing about people who work for basically any company? Because they are way more directly responsible for the actions of their corporation than the average person that makes 50k a year between AdSense and sponsors.
No, my point specifically relates to creative work. You said in your comment:
under our current economic model people require money to survive and if they do not get money for doing their creative work they might not be able to continue making that work.
This is false, basically. They can do other types of work. Creative work can be done without making money for it. Plenty of people have a day job and make creative work in their free time. The same option is not available for most other types of work, such as government, doctors, lawyers, etc. If you try to do these types of jobs outside of the framework of a regulated business, you'll get the book thrown at you.
The issue I'm getting at isn't "are you responsible for the actions you take to make a living". Rather, I'm getting at the issue of "does creative work require becoming an employee of a capitalist company, thereby siding with its shareholders in having a vested interest in increasing that company's profits regardless of the societal damage caused?"
The answer to that question is a resounding "no". Creatives need to grow a spine and get a day job.
