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  • cris_color@lemmy.worldC [email protected]

    The fediverse is small, and thats both a blessing and a curse - one of its several blessings is that in a smaller space we all individually have a bigger impact on what the culture of this space is like.

    On this comm (and on lemmy broadly) there's a lot of discussion about how to grow the fediverse, what to improve, but an easy thing you can do for the fediverse is right in front of us-

    • Be kind

    • Ask people what they think, and why

    • Approach folks you disagree with with curiosity rather than hostility

    • Engage sincerely

    • Ask yourself if there's something nice you can say

    • Make this small space worth being in

    A platform lives or dies by what's available on said platform and often we have this conversation in the context of "content" or posts - and we may never have as much content as reddit does. But content and posts aren't the only thing this kind of platform offers- it also offers people. It offers community, and human interaction.

    Culture and community is lemmy and the fediverse's biggest differentiator, and we all have a role to play in shaping the culture of this space.

    The biggest thing you can do to help the fediverse is make it a place worth being.

    tabbsthebat@pawb.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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    Hey this is a nice post, I wonder what the comments say :3 click

    "Oh you think being kind is good? You're a fascist OP >:T. You can't make me vote republican"

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      No. Kindness is often a tool for conservatives to maintain power. It's important, but integrity is more important.

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      Kindness is a tool for conservatives to maintain power

      Uh... Complimenting peoples art and having sincere discussions about what you think and why with folks on Lemmy grants conservatives power?

      I get that lots of folks are frustrated with the constant liberal compromising but a) that's not "kindness" and b) that's not what I'm saying you do. This post isn't about telling people they should approve of Nazis. Its about building a healthy culture, here, in this online space, that facilitates positive interactions worth having.

      I wish you and the others who commented along those lines could appreciate how exhausting this is as a person literally just saying we should be kind to the people we share this space with.

      Look around. Basically every person here is left of center. I'm left of center. You don't have to be combative with me just because we don't exactly agree on everything.

      Kindness is not a malicious conservative plot, nor is that what this post was about. And on that note, I clearly need to step away because in the same way that a lot of people's emotions are high, mine are too now and I'm loosing my ability to engage with people in the way that I want to.

      Take care, and I hope you have a good night/day

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      • cris_color@lemmy.worldC [email protected]

        The fediverse is small, and thats both a blessing and a curse - one of its several blessings is that in a smaller space we all individually have a bigger impact on what the culture of this space is like.

        On this comm (and on lemmy broadly) there's a lot of discussion about how to grow the fediverse, what to improve, but an easy thing you can do for the fediverse is right in front of us-

        • Be kind

        • Ask people what they think, and why

        • Approach folks you disagree with with curiosity rather than hostility

        • Engage sincerely

        • Ask yourself if there's something nice you can say

        • Make this small space worth being in

        A platform lives or dies by what's available on said platform and often we have this conversation in the context of "content" or posts - and we may never have as much content as reddit does. But content and posts aren't the only thing this kind of platform offers- it also offers people. It offers community, and human interaction.

        Culture and community is lemmy and the fediverse's biggest differentiator, and we all have a role to play in shaping the culture of this space.

        The biggest thing you can do to help the fediverse is make it a place worth being.

        condiment2085@lemm.eeC This user is from outside of this forum
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        #235

        Agreed, love it!

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        • tabbsthebat@pawb.socialT [email protected]

          Hey this is a nice post, I wonder what the comments say :3 click

          "Oh you think being kind is good? You're a fascist OP >:T. You can't make me vote republican"

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          I'm glad there's still sane people here.

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            Love how the point of the post is “hey try to be nice” and everyone sounding off in the comments like “FUCK YOU AND FUCK THOSE SPECIFIC GUYS TOO”

            Maybe more people should just post their reviews of vacuums here

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            Its definitely fatiguing not gonna lie 🙃

            Clearly I left it too ambiguous whether I meant Nazis specifically when I said you should try to approach people you disagree with with curiosity. That sounds super sarcastic but I don't mean it that way, I just don't have the energy to reword it

            This problem probably could have been anticipated and avoided, it's just hard to always do so perfectly on the internet when speaking to a lot of people you don't know who will interpret what you say in any manner of different ways

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            • davel@lemmy.mlD [email protected]

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tankie#Modern_Internet_uses but actually https://www.joewrote.com/p/jfk-files-reveal-the-cia-role-in

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              This is interesting.

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              • cris_color@lemmy.worldC [email protected]

                The fediverse is small, and thats both a blessing and a curse - one of its several blessings is that in a smaller space we all individually have a bigger impact on what the culture of this space is like.

                On this comm (and on lemmy broadly) there's a lot of discussion about how to grow the fediverse, what to improve, but an easy thing you can do for the fediverse is right in front of us-

                • Be kind

                • Ask people what they think, and why

                • Approach folks you disagree with with curiosity rather than hostility

                • Engage sincerely

                • Ask yourself if there's something nice you can say

                • Make this small space worth being in

                A platform lives or dies by what's available on said platform and often we have this conversation in the context of "content" or posts - and we may never have as much content as reddit does. But content and posts aren't the only thing this kind of platform offers- it also offers people. It offers community, and human interaction.

                Culture and community is lemmy and the fediverse's biggest differentiator, and we all have a role to play in shaping the culture of this space.

                The biggest thing you can do to help the fediverse is make it a place worth being.

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                OP simply asks people to be kind, People proceed to tear each other apart..

                OP now knows how Jesus felt 🤣

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                • condiment2085@lemm.eeC [email protected]

                  Agreed, love it!

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                  ❤️

                  Have a good one!

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                  • tabbsthebat@pawb.socialT [email protected]

                    Hey this is a nice post, I wonder what the comments say :3 click

                    "Oh you think being kind is good? You're a fascist OP >:T. You can't make me vote republican"

                    cris_color@lemmy.worldC This user is from outside of this forum
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                    im having a time. 🥲

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                      The vast majority of people here are reddit refugees, raised on a website that encourages being a prentious dick(me inclusive, too often, though I'm trying to be better) it's unsurprising they'd take issue with the message

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                      It just seems a large amount of human race doesn't want to be kind. They'd rather feel superior.

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                      • cris_color@lemmy.worldC [email protected]

                        im having a time. 🥲

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                        I can imagine x3 clicking on this gave me mental whiplash

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                        • antibullyranger@ani.socialA [email protected]

                          It's extremely hard to be charitable online, when you have instances like these:

                          • https://map-wiki.com/index.php/List_of_active_instances_of_map_fediverse
                          • https://wiki.yesmap.net/wiki/Pediverse
                          • https://fediverse.wiki/wiki/Poast
                          • https://truthsocial.com/

                          I'm sorry that I cannot “be kind” to the intolerant.

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                          Technically anyone can spin up an instance centered on whatever dark and inhumane topic. That's the reality of an open network. That's why defederation and whitelisting are such important tools as Fediverse grows. You don't actually want access to every last bit of information on the network.

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                          • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.deG [email protected]

                            actually let me think about it again:

                            IMO that somebody's always hateful is typically a sign of enormous psychological/emotional stress. so that tells me these people have a lot of problems, and probably don't know how to deal with the world. i wonder what education would do to them.

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                            The thing is, hate has varying degrees. There is: slight disregard up to boiling rage. But the root is the same. They hate those that are different and the higher ups need a Boogeyman to point their capitalistism caused depression to.

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                              That’s the part that I still can’t wrap my head around. We know it will be shameless shilling and nepotism along with stochastic terrorism and still vote for it anyway? Wtf

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                              Its easy to forget they live in a fundamentally different reality shaped by a buble of media. We all do, but conservative media kinda feels like an alternative universe.

                              When confronted with the world we live in they reject it as unrealistic because it differs too much from the facts they've accepted about the world.

                              My grandpa is a trump voter and I do my best to still talk to him. At an individual scale he's a kind, sincere man who has always been welcoming of my queerness and tries to understand me. It's very painful trying to discuss things with him even though it stays a kind interaction when I lead with kindness. It requires a lot of cognitive dissonance, but he lives in a fundamentally different reality than I do and I honestly don't know what I can do about it 😞

                              That's the dangerous thing about fascism. Decent people buy into it. Become complicit or enable it. It wouldn't be a real threat if they didn't. But it engineers a reality for people to believe in, and lo and behold, they do. And cruelty ensues 😞

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                                Nope. They've had plenty of time to see the results of their actions. They're complicit at this point.

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                                I can empathize with your anger but I do think it's easy to forget just how much propaganda can shape peoples world views and idea of reality. It's used so heavily because it works 😞

                                Regardless, I'm not trying to start a fight, I can appreciate having no more tolerance for the increasing cruelty of the state of the world. Take care ❤️

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                                • cris_color@lemmy.worldC [email protected]

                                  The fediverse is small, and thats both a blessing and a curse - one of its several blessings is that in a smaller space we all individually have a bigger impact on what the culture of this space is like.

                                  On this comm (and on lemmy broadly) there's a lot of discussion about how to grow the fediverse, what to improve, but an easy thing you can do for the fediverse is right in front of us-

                                  • Be kind

                                  • Ask people what they think, and why

                                  • Approach folks you disagree with with curiosity rather than hostility

                                  • Engage sincerely

                                  • Ask yourself if there's something nice you can say

                                  • Make this small space worth being in

                                  A platform lives or dies by what's available on said platform and often we have this conversation in the context of "content" or posts - and we may never have as much content as reddit does. But content and posts aren't the only thing this kind of platform offers- it also offers people. It offers community, and human interaction.

                                  Culture and community is lemmy and the fediverse's biggest differentiator, and we all have a role to play in shaping the culture of this space.

                                  The biggest thing you can do to help the fediverse is make it a place worth being.

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                                  Completely right OP, and this is worth repeating as MUCH as possible. More than almost any UX or intake changes, Fediverse will only grow if their experience of the community is good.

                                  Unfortunately, some people have never caught a vibe in their life and it shows lol. A single person with a bad attitude can completely tank your experience in a small community, versus a 20,000 person subreddit where usernames are basically indistinguishable.

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                                    If you think political stances can be adequately expressed along a single line, then you're not much better I'm afraid. Engage with the nuance, friend, it'll build understanding and be better for all of us.

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                                    But nuance is hard and demands empathy which is also hard. I want to be angry-mad and stomp my feet!

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                                    • cris_color@lemmy.worldC [email protected]

                                      The fediverse is small, and thats both a blessing and a curse - one of its several blessings is that in a smaller space we all individually have a bigger impact on what the culture of this space is like.

                                      On this comm (and on lemmy broadly) there's a lot of discussion about how to grow the fediverse, what to improve, but an easy thing you can do for the fediverse is right in front of us-

                                      • Be kind

                                      • Ask people what they think, and why

                                      • Approach folks you disagree with with curiosity rather than hostility

                                      • Engage sincerely

                                      • Ask yourself if there's something nice you can say

                                      • Make this small space worth being in

                                      A platform lives or dies by what's available on said platform and often we have this conversation in the context of "content" or posts - and we may never have as much content as reddit does. But content and posts aren't the only thing this kind of platform offers- it also offers people. It offers community, and human interaction.

                                      Culture and community is lemmy and the fediverse's biggest differentiator, and we all have a role to play in shaping the culture of this space.

                                      The biggest thing you can do to help the fediverse is make it a place worth being.

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                                      You would think the internet is full of bees looking to make honey but really it’s full of beetles wanting to roll their shit.

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                                      • tabbsthebat@pawb.socialT [email protected]

                                        Hey this is a nice post, I wonder what the comments say :3 click

                                        "Oh you think being kind is good? You're a fascist OP >:T. You can't make me vote republican"

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                                        If I steal your identity I can make you vote republican. But I don’t like to steal. Maybe: lend it to me? I promise to give it back at the end.

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                                          What is a tankie?

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                                          If you're familiar with how the word "commie" was used during the cold war, its just an updated version of that, for people who don't want to sound like crusty boomers.

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