Video Shows Aid Workers Killed in Gaza Under Gunfire Barrage, With Ambulance Lights On
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Does credibility mean nothing anymore?
It hasn't for quite some time because the powers that be found they can distract everyone with celebrity bullshit and cats on the internet, destroying our collective memory span so they can continue to commit atrocity after atrocity while we are all too depressed and endorphin-seeking to fight back.
And in a few minutes someone will come along to tell me why I am wrong and stupid but no one will care because this is ALL buried in a pile of irrelevant, life eroding infotainment
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I am astonished how silent the west is. Why not a single nation is required to conduct independent investigation and require accountability on Israel's side.
What happened on the 7th of October was horrible but it is not giving Israel a carte blanche to commit war crimes and crimes against humanity.
Repub or Dem no American in power will censure Israel b/c the U.S. will do nothing to jeopardize our military reach there. It's a sad fact that is at the basis of all of this, and this fundamental misunderstanding cost Kamala a lot of voters
Everyone wants to pretend it's satanism or globalism or communism or whatever fucking ism is the bad guy this week but really it's just that the U.S. refuses to give up willingly the title of 'world's best warlord'
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I also wonder what are the israelian citizens doing/thinking?
Are they all as extreme as Netanjahu?
Or am i just missing their demonstrations against genocide?like every population they are mixed, and there have been public protests so at least there is some opposition
Mostly I think the average person is just low information and agitated with a constant background of fear and confusion, tribalistic and relying on gut feeling over rationality
There are also some ridiculously greedy and violent bandits that will kill a family for land, but they are in the minority.
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I seriously think at some point a dirty bomb is going to go off in Tel Aviv based on the actions the Israelis take today.
And I think there will be a 50% chance that it will be a false flag operation to justify further atrocity
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And I think there will be a 50% chance that it will be a false flag operation to justify further atrocity
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Sounds like the exact thing right there. Fucking disgusting risking your own citizens lives for clout and casus belli
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I also wonder what are the israelian citizens doing/thinking?
Are they all as extreme as Netanjahu?
Or am i just missing their demonstrations against genocide?The Jewish People Policy Institute Israel Index survey found that 8 out of 10 Jewish Israelis agreed with Trump's proposal of expelling Palestinians from Gaza.
Forty-three percent of all Israelis said that the expulsion plan was "practical" and should be implemented, while 30 percent said the plan was "desirable" but not practical.
A minority of 13 percent - made of up 54 percent of Palestinian respondents and just three percent of Jewish Israelis - described the Trump plan as "immoral".
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The Jewish People Policy Institute Israel Index survey found that 8 out of 10 Jewish Israelis agreed with Trump's proposal of expelling Palestinians from Gaza.
Forty-three percent of all Israelis said that the expulsion plan was "practical" and should be implemented, while 30 percent said the plan was "desirable" but not practical.
A minority of 13 percent - made of up 54 percent of Palestinian respondents and just three percent of Jewish Israelis - described the Trump plan as "immoral".
That's fucking disgusting.
Even at the start of Russian invasion, their citizens were protesting and going to jail for it. Never saw the same from israeli citizens. Guess this explains why. -
There is a difference: we're helping to fund it.
USA was profiting quite nicely off Nazi Germany in World War 2 right up until the USA entered the war in 1941. Some historians argue there is nothing wrong with that. I think many would disagree.
The US government at the time was lobbied heavily by business and private citizens (including the Nazi Party of America) to stay neutral in the war, so they largely did just that right up until Pearl Harbour made it so they could not turn away. There were exceptions, eg: oil and metals used for creating ammunition were agreed not to be sold as part of the Allied Agreement with the UK (and others) and boats coming in and out were blockaded. But even that didn't stop big fans of fascism, such as the Texaco CEO at the time whom supplied oil to the Nazis up until late 1940.
So, honestly I don't think a lot has changed.
I guess the US government wasn't directly funding WW2, but they also didn't care one bit until it affected them directly - it was making their donors money. Paralleled today the US govt at large doesn't care, and primarily funds Israel for two reasons: protecting their oil interests in the middle east (business donors and strategic benefits), and every dollar provided in the budget is actually a voucher to go buy some weapons or military equipment from a US firm - so again, its to cynically drive military-industrial investment (strategic) and protect their business donors.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_collaboration_with_Nazi_Germany
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Y'know, I'm starting to think those Israelis are a bunch of fucking assholes.
I lay the blame at the IDF and their far-right Likud government who has openly said they will protect any IDF soldiers accused of war crimes.
I don't wish to tar a whole country with the same brush.
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Israel will claim anything to not seem like genocidal maniacs. Seriously, fuck Netanyahu. The arrogance of killing CLEARLY marked aid workers, and claiming they weren’t marked is baffling.
It'll be one of the first cases which has irrefutable proof of war crime, without any scope of 'they were Hamas' sissy cry.
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A video, discovered on the cellphone of a paramedic who was found along with 14 other aid workers in a mass grave in Gaza in late March, shows that the ambulances and fire truck that they were traveling in were clearly marked and had their emergency signal lights on when Israeli troops hit them with a barrage of gunfire.
NYT still unsure who the perpetrator is and leaves it out of the title
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USA was profiting quite nicely off Nazi Germany in World War 2 right up until the USA entered the war in 1941. Some historians argue there is nothing wrong with that. I think many would disagree.
The US government at the time was lobbied heavily by business and private citizens (including the Nazi Party of America) to stay neutral in the war, so they largely did just that right up until Pearl Harbour made it so they could not turn away. There were exceptions, eg: oil and metals used for creating ammunition were agreed not to be sold as part of the Allied Agreement with the UK (and others) and boats coming in and out were blockaded. But even that didn't stop big fans of fascism, such as the Texaco CEO at the time whom supplied oil to the Nazis up until late 1940.
So, honestly I don't think a lot has changed.
I guess the US government wasn't directly funding WW2, but they also didn't care one bit until it affected them directly - it was making their donors money. Paralleled today the US govt at large doesn't care, and primarily funds Israel for two reasons: protecting their oil interests in the middle east (business donors and strategic benefits), and every dollar provided in the budget is actually a voucher to go buy some weapons or military equipment from a US firm - so again, its to cynically drive military-industrial investment (strategic) and protect their business donors.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_collaboration_with_Nazi_Germany
so they largely did just that right up until Pearl Harbor made it so they could not turn away
FWIW we (the United States) could conceivably have gone on turning away from what Germany was doing even after Pearl Harbor (although that was unlikely given Roosevelt's anti-Germany stance). Hitler declared war on the US on December 11th, not the other way around.
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It's not lesser of two evils it's inaction that's the issue "the world sucks so let me do absolutely nothing about it whaaaa" just fuck right off to a forest cabin or smt instead of spreading your shit defeatism onto others.
You mean like how democrats love to claim their hands are tied on any issue that benefits the common person? Pointing out that electoralism hasn't worked isn't defeatism, it's recognizing reality.
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It hasn't for quite some time because the powers that be found they can distract everyone with celebrity bullshit and cats on the internet, destroying our collective memory span so they can continue to commit atrocity after atrocity while we are all too depressed and endorphin-seeking to fight back.
And in a few minutes someone will come along to tell me why I am wrong and stupid but no one will care because this is ALL buried in a pile of irrelevant, life eroding infotainment
haha, yeah
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so they largely did just that right up until Pearl Harbor made it so they could not turn away
FWIW we (the United States) could conceivably have gone on turning away from what Germany was doing even after Pearl Harbor (although that was unlikely given Roosevelt's anti-Germany stance). Hitler declared war on the US on December 11th, not the other way around.
Yeah, even in my excessively long reply to a one sentence comment I was skipping over a lot of information for brevity, and I'm not a historian. My point was only to illuminate that the US stance pre-WW2 involvement was not dissimilar to today's - broadly the govt doesnt care that people suffer even to the point of genocide now nor then, as long as national interests (basically business and economy) are unimpeded.
Thanks for the added info.
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A video, discovered on the cellphone of a paramedic who was found along with 14 other aid workers in a mass grave in Gaza in late March, shows that the ambulances and fire truck that they were traveling in were clearly marked and had their emergency signal lights on when Israeli troops hit them with a barrage of gunfire.
They behead newborns. We don't have to justify anything. The entire world is under their thumb now, it is obvious. And they don't have benevolent plans.
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They elected Netanyahu in a democratic way. Israeli citizens have zero empathy from me.
Empathy for what? They are going to rule the world, the rest of us are either cattle or vermin for them. All because of a handful of agents.
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A video, discovered on the cellphone of a paramedic who was found along with 14 other aid workers in a mass grave in Gaza in late March, shows that the ambulances and fire truck that they were traveling in were clearly marked and had their emergency signal lights on when Israeli troops hit them with a barrage of gunfire.
The cruelty is the point. These bastards don't care about human rights.
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I am astonished how silent the west is. Why not a single nation is required to conduct independent investigation and require accountability on Israel's side.
What happened on the 7th of October was horrible but it is not giving Israel a carte blanche to commit war crimes and crimes against humanity.
But also why do you and others in the west keep acting like this started on Oct 7th? Israel has been fucking up Palestine for as long as I can remember.
