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6* months away now. If you're on 10, do you plan to upgrade? Make the jump to Linux?

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  • ? Guest

    I already switched to Bazzite Desktop and it's been so good. I had some pains configuring somethings to my liking, but that was more due to me not being familiar with Linux. I'm never going back.

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    If I was considering Bazzite and Pop OS as options, which would you suggest I go with?

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      I've even taken out the drive that I had Linux installed, windows still has the issue, it started barely happening a year or so ago but recently it's gotten much much worse and it happens in waves(?) where it'll not have any issues for several days and then one day it will fail to wake up every time it goes to sleep, except when I'm testing. I recall testing the drive check on both Linux and windows, but both came out clean.

      My bf and I have narrowed it down to probably being the power supply (last year there were a bunch of power outages after a historical flood here in southern Brazil) but the ram is also unstable at timings that it used to run perfectly fine, but the ram test came out clean so it's a big mess of possibilities RN. I'm just waiting for Monday to be able to buy a new power supply and a UPS to test, but even then we're still unsure if this will truly fix it or if I'll need to get a new motherboard.

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      Hey, what's your usecase like that requires sleep in the first place? I've never used Sleep since I moved to using an SSD as a boot drive. My computer boots in around 12 seconds with the SSD that it just made sleep unnecessary.

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        I would like to switch to Linux on my gaming machine but me and my girlfriend play Valorant together so I can't switch just yet.

        My server and laptop already run NixOS, I'm just looking forward to the day my gaming/main machine join them too

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          If I was considering Bazzite and Pop OS as options, which would you suggest I go with?

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          Well, I cannot comment about PopOS because I simply don't know how it is, but Bazzite on desktop has been great. I didn't need to install anything related to gaming because it already comes with everything on it.

          Pretty much anything I needed is on the discovery store and it's handled like the app store on Android, so no headache of messing it up with installations or worrying about updates. Although, Bazzite is an immutable OS so anything that you need to install that's not on the store can be a headache.

          Also, my computer is an old laptop, so I got a performance boost as the system feels way smoother now than with Windows.

          About games, I played some indie games on Steam and Lutris and it worked flawlessly. But do note that for more recent systems, it appears to be some headaches, especially with NVIDIA graphics cards. I only play new games on streaming services, so I don't have those problems.
          But I do have some problems with the streaming service using my 8BitDo controller, but it's not related to the system, it's related to the service's bad drivers. When I stream the game using Steam, it's smooth sailing.

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            Why Gates in the picture tough?

            He stepped down as a chairman over 10 years ago and didint he leave the microsoft board like 5 years ago?

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              I got a new PC recently so unfortunately I am now on Windows 11. I’ve been wanting to make the swap to Linux but I can’t really make a clean break because at least some of the games I play a lot won’t work on Linux. I do think I’m gonna try to set up another hard drive with Linux on it to try to slowly start learning it and ideally move over anything that I can over there eventually and just keep the windows drive for those few games.

              Does anyone have any recommendations related to that? Distro for gaming/ease of use? What’s the best option for setting up the dual boot? Anything I wouldn’t have thought of that’s relevant?

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                Nope, will probably avoid 11 as long as I can though. I have an Mvidia card (drivers are notoriously troublesome on Linux). And I need professional design software for work (as in, industry standard: Adobe or Affinity).

                But I put 11 on my laptop to try it and I hate it. So many terrible UI changes, UX noticeably worse. Like they changed stuff just to say they changed stuff.

                I considered going Linux for personal use and development, and then using another machine or dual boot for Mac for design software. But i learned about the Nvidia issues after I upgraded my card 😕

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                If you have a newer NVIDIA, you should be good. It's a little rough around the edges here and there (steam overlay flickered for a friend, but that was months ago and could well be fixed) , but to my understanding, the worst issues have been solved. And having previously used an RTX 2040, it worke perfectly where it truly matters.

                Like others have said, try a dualboot. It can't hurt.

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                • glog78@digitalcourage.socialG [email protected]

                  @IceFoxX

                  I have used nvidia on my private PC on linux for more than a decade now. They provided a stable usable 3D acceleration in KDE1 when no other company did give a fuck about linux and voodoo had only their glide interface on the console.

                  As a customer i am very sad about the current state on linux and as a customer my next graphics card might be an AMD. The reasons are not only the driver but also that amd provides just more memory for the same money and i think that nvidia currently is cheating their way throu the consumer market (for real imaginary AI Pictures is a performance improvment ???).

                  But and thats why i disagree hardly with the "fuck nvidia" ... they deserve the respect for the support much longer than any brand out there and therefor they deserve a respectfull way to express where they imho do wrong.

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                  They deserve respect? For the criminal methods they used back then? FCK nvidia!

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                  • justsquigglez@lemm.eeJ [email protected]

                    Basically my plan until I can scrounge enough money up for a new computer. My current one literally won't let me upgrade due to some component/driver it lacks.

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                    Definitely you should look into Linux, it's really gotten quite good. Especially if you don't need games with anti cheat.

                    But if you just want to use Windows 11, it's super duper easy. Just Google "download Windows 11 iso" and grab the iso file from Microsoft website.

                    Then download Rufus.

                    Then pop in a thumb drive that's at least 8gb. Open Rufus, select your thumb drive and the iso, then choose the option to remove windows requirements, then click start.

                    Backup your files on Windows 10, save them somewhere. Then pop in the thumb drive and install windows 11 fresh.

                    The requirements aren't actually required. Win 11 runs fine on all sorts of hardware. Support stops at 8th Gen Intel, but I've installed it on 5th Gen. My work laptop is 2nd or 3rd Gen. It's fine 🤷‍♂️

                    Technically less secure? Yeah, in some ways. But it's miles ahead of running unpatched windows 10 after September.

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                      Why Gates in the picture tough?

                      He stepped down as a chairman over 10 years ago and didint he leave the microsoft board like 5 years ago?

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                      He was the face of Microsoft for most of OP’s life.

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                      • kolanaki@pawb.socialK [email protected]

                        It's not like that shits gonna make your computer explode the day they end support lol

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                        The viruses and exploits will though.

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                          Sooner or later the issue will be that some software probably won't be available any more for your system.

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                          This is a minor issue compared to the security risks. See the other comment in this thread for a good explanation.

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                            The viruses and exploits will though.

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                            Solution:

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                              Your experience is not invalid, but It's fucked up that you're giving Windows credit for "just working" when Windows doesn't even try to support dual booting. In fact the reason Linux is having so much trouble is because it has to tiptoe so that Windows doesn't break.

                              If you don't like Gnome or Mint Cinnamon, why not try KDE? Something like Kubuntu, perhaps? I use Fedora KDE myself.

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                              From Window's perspective, there's no need to dual boot. But I get what you're saying. I'm not trying to defend Microsoft, and think that they've been enshittifying windows for years now.

                              But everything works without jumping through hoops. And if it doesn't, the fix is usually very easy and done through a GUI 99% of the time.

                              But you are right. There are many flavours of Linux to try. Aesthetics aren't my priority, though. I do need things to work without spending hours trying to figure it out.

                              I'm at an age where messing around on my computer for days on end is long gone. 😵

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                                I got a new PC recently so unfortunately I am now on Windows 11. I’ve been wanting to make the swap to Linux but I can’t really make a clean break because at least some of the games I play a lot won’t work on Linux. I do think I’m gonna try to set up another hard drive with Linux on it to try to slowly start learning it and ideally move over anything that I can over there eventually and just keep the windows drive for those few games.

                                Does anyone have any recommendations related to that? Distro for gaming/ease of use? What’s the best option for setting up the dual boot? Anything I wouldn’t have thought of that’s relevant?

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                                What games are they?

                                One of the reasons i am sticking with Arch is because steamdeck os is build on it, whats good enough to game for valve is good enough for me.

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                                  Upgrade tool says my hardware isn't supported, seems like I can enable TPM on my motherboard but it doesn't work right for some reason I think I managed to install Windows 10 without secure boot or something, not sure if those two are even related. I was thinking maybe I'd have to reinstall windows 10 with those modules enabled in order to upgrade to windows 11... Has anyone else encountered something similar?

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                                  Those two are related. Windows 11 requires both UEFI (secure boot) and TPM. Microsoft has a tool for converting a legacy install to UEFI. (backup your data beforehand as always)

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                                    I'm already on Linux, gaming isn't as good but I only play old games anyway so it doesn't matter.

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                                    Fwiw, a great majority of my Steam library plays great in SteamOS.

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                                    • nuko147@lemm.eeN [email protected]

                                      Nvidia user, i saw a 10-15% performance difference (maybe more in some games), some anti-cheat do not work, so i can not install these games. I used both Mint and Nobara with latest drivers running and proton-GE.

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                                      Might be game dependent but nowadays games like withcher 3 run better on linux then windows for me.

                                      Anti-cheat is admittedly a pain though. Chivalry 2 used to work and now no longer does.

                                      Though those anti cheats tend to be very invasive so i prefer if everyone moved to a system thats is user personal security first so the market would align with that.

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                                        That's where the "analysis" part of "cost-benefit analysis" comes in and it doesn't make sense to generalize like you seem to want to.

                                        Is it really that much more responsible to run Windows 11? You seem to have a LOT of faith in Microsoft to keep you safe. There's plenty of reasons to not switch to Windows 11.

                                        I also use Linux on some machines. But I can also see why there are reasons why one distro or another, or even Linux in general, may not be the right call for some people.

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                                        I use Linux exclusively but I don't think it's relevant to the discussion.

                                        I would rather use windows 11 than any other EOL version of windows. I loved windows XP when it came out, wouldn't dare to use it today.

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                                          Those two are related. Windows 11 requires both UEFI (secure boot) and TPM. Microsoft has a tool for converting a legacy install to UEFI. (backup your data beforehand as always)

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                                          Wow, looks like exactly what I need! I'll give it a try, thanks!

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