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What Kinds of Data do AI Chatbots Collect?

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  • C [email protected]

    Me when Gemini (aka google) collects more data than anyone else:

    Not really shocked, we all know that google sucks

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    I would hazard a guess that the only reason those others aren't as high is because they don't have the same access to data. It's not that they don't want to, they simply can't (yet).

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      Only if my hardware could support it..

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        A chart titled "What Kind of Data Do AI Chatbots Collect?" lists and compares seven AI chatbots—Gemini, Claude, CoPilot, Deepseek, ChatGPT, Perplexity, and Grok—based on the types and number of data points they collect as of February 2025. The categories of data include: Contact Info, Location, Contacts, User Content, History, Identifiers, Diagnostics, Usage Data, Purchases, Other Data.

        • Gemini: Collects all 10 data types; highest total at 22 data points
        • Claude: Collects 7 types; 13 data points
        • CoPilot: Collects 7 types; 12 data points
        • Deepseek: Collects 6 types; 11 data points
        • ChatGPT: Collects 6 types; 10 data points
        • Perplexity: Collects 6 types; 10 data points
        • Grok: Collects 4 types; 7 data points
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        Aren't they supposed to collect data?

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          A chart titled "What Kind of Data Do AI Chatbots Collect?" lists and compares seven AI chatbots—Gemini, Claude, CoPilot, Deepseek, ChatGPT, Perplexity, and Grok—based on the types and number of data points they collect as of February 2025. The categories of data include: Contact Info, Location, Contacts, User Content, History, Identifiers, Diagnostics, Usage Data, Purchases, Other Data.

          • Gemini: Collects all 10 data types; highest total at 22 data points
          • Claude: Collects 7 types; 13 data points
          • CoPilot: Collects 7 types; 12 data points
          • Deepseek: Collects 6 types; 11 data points
          • ChatGPT: Collects 6 types; 10 data points
          • Perplexity: Collects 6 types; 10 data points
          • Grok: Collects 4 types; 7 data points
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          DeepSeek at home: None

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            I would hazard a guess that the only reason those others aren't as high is because they don't have the same access to data. It's not that they don't want to, they simply can't (yet).

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            Which is good (for now). Glad I don't use that shit

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              A chart titled "What Kind of Data Do AI Chatbots Collect?" lists and compares seven AI chatbots—Gemini, Claude, CoPilot, Deepseek, ChatGPT, Perplexity, and Grok—based on the types and number of data points they collect as of February 2025. The categories of data include: Contact Info, Location, Contacts, User Content, History, Identifiers, Diagnostics, Usage Data, Purchases, Other Data.

              • Gemini: Collects all 10 data types; highest total at 22 data points
              • Claude: Collects 7 types; 13 data points
              • CoPilot: Collects 7 types; 12 data points
              • Deepseek: Collects 6 types; 11 data points
              • ChatGPT: Collects 6 types; 10 data points
              • Perplexity: Collects 6 types; 10 data points
              • Grok: Collects 4 types; 7 data points
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              Just clarifying, does this report mean it's collected while a user is using the tools, or data that is generally scraped from the internet?

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                A chart titled "What Kind of Data Do AI Chatbots Collect?" lists and compares seven AI chatbots—Gemini, Claude, CoPilot, Deepseek, ChatGPT, Perplexity, and Grok—based on the types and number of data points they collect as of February 2025. The categories of data include: Contact Info, Location, Contacts, User Content, History, Identifiers, Diagnostics, Usage Data, Purchases, Other Data.

                • Gemini: Collects all 10 data types; highest total at 22 data points
                • Claude: Collects 7 types; 13 data points
                • CoPilot: Collects 7 types; 12 data points
                • Deepseek: Collects 6 types; 11 data points
                • ChatGPT: Collects 6 types; 10 data points
                • Perplexity: Collects 6 types; 10 data points
                • Grok: Collects 4 types; 7 data points
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                And what about goddamn Mistral?

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                  A chart titled "What Kind of Data Do AI Chatbots Collect?" lists and compares seven AI chatbots—Gemini, Claude, CoPilot, Deepseek, ChatGPT, Perplexity, and Grok—based on the types and number of data points they collect as of February 2025. The categories of data include: Contact Info, Location, Contacts, User Content, History, Identifiers, Diagnostics, Usage Data, Purchases, Other Data.

                  • Gemini: Collects all 10 data types; highest total at 22 data points
                  • Claude: Collects 7 types; 13 data points
                  • CoPilot: Collects 7 types; 12 data points
                  • Deepseek: Collects 6 types; 11 data points
                  • ChatGPT: Collects 6 types; 10 data points
                  • Perplexity: Collects 6 types; 10 data points
                  • Grok: Collects 4 types; 7 data points
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                  Is there away to fake all the data they try to collect?

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                    Just clarifying, does this report mean it's collected while a user is using the tools, or data that is generally scraped from the internet?

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                    They're talking about what is being recorded while the user is using the tools (your prompts, RAG data, etc.)

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                      Locally run AI: 0

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                      Are there tutorials on how to do this? Should it be set up on a server on my local network??? How hard is it to set up? I have so many questions.

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                        Are there tutorials on how to do this? Should it be set up on a server on my local network??? How hard is it to set up? I have so many questions.

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                        Check out Ollama, it’s probably the easiest way to get started these days. It provides tooling and an api that different chat frontends can connect to.

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                          Which is good (for now). Glad I don't use that shit

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                          On that note, anyone reading this comment, [email protected] (and similar) exists. Take your privacy back!

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                            They're talking about what is being recorded while the user is using the tools (your prompts, RAG data, etc.)

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                            Does that include generated responses?

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                              Are there tutorials on how to do this? Should it be set up on a server on my local network??? How hard is it to set up? I have so many questions.

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                              I recommend GPT4all if you want run locally on your PC. It is super easy.

                              If you want to run in a separate server ollama + some kind of web UI is the best.

                              Ollama can also be run locally but it IMO take more learning than GUI app like GPT4all.

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                                Is there away to fake all the data they try to collect?

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                                Pretty sure this is what they scrape from your device if you install their app. I dont know how else they would get access to contacts and location and stuff. So yeah you can just run it on a virtual android device and feed it garbage data, but i assume the app or their backend will detect that and throw out your data.

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                                  Pretty sure this is what they scrape from your device if you install their app. I dont know how else they would get access to contacts and location and stuff. So yeah you can just run it on a virtual android device and feed it garbage data, but i assume the app or their backend will detect that and throw out your data.

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                                  Root, install xprivacy (or xprivacylua if your phone isn't 10 years old).

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                                  • Q [email protected]

                                    Does that include generated responses?

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                                    Nobody knows! There's no specific disclosure that I'm aware of (in the US at least), and even if there was I wouldn't trust any of these guys to tell the truth about it anyway.

                                    As always, don't do anything on the Internet that you wouldn't want the rest of the world to find out about 🙂

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                                      I recommend GPT4all if you want run locally on your PC. It is super easy.

                                      If you want to run in a separate server ollama + some kind of web UI is the best.

                                      Ollama can also be run locally but it IMO take more learning than GUI app like GPT4all.

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                                      If by more learning you mean learning

                                      ollama run deepseek-r1:7b

                                      Then yeah, it's a pretty steep curve!

                                      If you're a developer then you can also search "$MyFavDevEnv use local ai ollama" to find guides on setting up. I'm using Continue extension for VS Codium (or Code) but there's easy to use modules for Vim and Emacs and probably everything else as well.

                                      The main problem is leveling your expectations. The full Deepseek is a 671b (that's billions of parameters) and the model weights (the thing you download when you pull an AI) are 404GB in size. You need so much RAM available to run one of those.

                                      They make distilled models though, which are much smaller but still useful. The 14b is 9GB and runs fine with only 16GB of ram. They obviously aren't as impressive as the cloud hosted big versions though.

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                                        Only if my hardware could support it..

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                                        I can actually use locally some smaller models on my 2017 laptop (though I have increased the RAM to 16 GB).

                                        You'd be surprised how mich can be done with how little.

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                                          Are there tutorials on how to do this? Should it be set up on a server on my local network??? How hard is it to set up? I have so many questions.

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                                          If you want to start playing around immediately, try Alpaca if Linux, LMStudio if Windows. See if it works for you, then move from there.

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