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Bad film with amazing premise and mediocre execution that you can't stop thinking about?

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    Thanks! Does that look any better now?

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    It doesn't, it still has some exclamation point action that might be the issue. If it helps, you should be able to copy and paste my example markdown. I gave it a try and it still works.

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      Dark City (1998) could definitely fit the bill, it has so many unique ideas for that time in film and you can see there’s of all sorts of future sci-fi movies in it from the matrix to inception, it’s a very visually ugly movie and the acting is subpar but as a premise it’s super interesting. Generally I think remakes are a waste of time and money but I’d love to see this movie with a proper budget and modern technology

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        Man in the High Castle tv show. The premise was interesting, Nazis taking over the US and the population figting back. However, the show quickly devolved into a confusing mess.

        Nazis are in charge of the US government, yet there's other Nazis on the run from the Nazis in charge? And they're hiding bibles? I was left scratching my head wondering if there were any characters that weren't Nazis. I guess it's a story about how bad guys always turn on each other?

        Also The Witcher season 1 tv show. I've never played the games before and knew nothing about it. I was hoping the tv series would be my introduction to the games, but... what in the actual fuck. Was the director drunk? Is this a show about medieval fantasy time travel and I'm just not getting it?

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        • soleinvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zoneS [email protected]

          It doesn't, it still has some exclamation point action that might be the issue. If it helps, you should be able to copy and paste my example markdown. I gave it a try and it still works.

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          There, third time's the charm (or 10th, more accurately, since lemmy.world is shitting the bed right now).

          I think I figured out what was going on, too. The app I use was automatically re-parsing spoiler formatting into its own syntax, but then was erroneously applying that same syntax to text when attempting to view source. So even the example you posted looked different to me when viewed in app versus on the actual site. I made the edit from the site this time and I think that should be good now.

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            In time, has such a awesome premise.

            But what we got was a "poor little rich girl" story.

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            What we got was Bonnie and Clyde. I liked it though.

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              Not a film, but a TV series?
              It's called Jericho, and the synopsis in the Wikipedia reads:

              Jericho is an American post-apocalyptic action drama television series, which centers on the residents of the fictional city of Jericho, Kansas, in the aftermath of a nuclear attack on 23 major cities in the contiguous United States.

              But yeah, the execution is mediocre at best. Both the action and the drama are unbearably flimsy and cliche, even the argument flops as metal.

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              I remember starting watching that. I have no idea how far I got, but I don't remember a thing about it.

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              • W [email protected]

                The Man from Earth

                B4

                Triangle

                Time Lapse

                Daybreakers

                Evolution

                Knowing

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                The Man From Earth is definitely one I think about. The things he must have seen, must have done, that over time shaped him into who he was. Is he the embodiment of mankind, as well as its own self-hatred? The religious stuff was a bit much. I still haven't seen the sequel, with genuine anxiety to.

                Daybreakers is also a good one. A bit deus-ex with the "solution" at the end, but very good thought experiment

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                • tetris11@lemmy.mlT [email protected]

                  I watched a recent review from TheNostalgiaCritic about this film, and he does touch upon a lot of what you said about the strange motivations of all the characters that led up to the Dinosaurs escaping. That being said, I liked it and would say it is iconic in both story and genre (semi-horror kid-friendly family film aimed at adults?)

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                  I saw the Siskel and Ebert review and I agree with their point that there was a lack of awe in the movie that E.T. and close encounters of the third kind had.

                  This movie had dinosaurs being dangerous at almost all times. Only a moment after they awed a stampede was heading for them.
                  The danger felt convoluted. Tacked in.
                  And it would have been a good time to question the old man about park safety.

                  The old man never get punished for his reckless behavior. I don't get why my downvoters would disagree with me. Would you downvoters really have acted so calmly against the old man when the park goes haywire?

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                  • match@pawb.socialM [email protected]

                    TFA and RoS are rehashes, TLJ is a deconstruction

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                    That seems like a distinction without a difference.

                    Just for the fun of it, I took a screenshot of Google AIs take on the "deconstruction" argument:

                    "Challenging the Chosen One narrative"

                    Rey's parents were "nobody" yet so were Luke Skywalker's parents. The final film is titled "The Rise of Skywalker" on her path to becoming the chosen one.

                    "Revisiting Luke's Heroism"

                    Rehashes the same failures Obi Wan felt for not preventing Anakin from going to the dark side.

                    "Undermining Jedi Ideals"

                    Irrelevant point that could just as easily signify the film's creator's not being familiar with the intricacies of the source material.

                    "Exploration of Failure and Complexity"

                    Throughout all the films, the rebels are constantly facing failures. They get attacked, captured, fail to prevent events from occurring, etc.

                    "Subverting Expectations"

                    An expression ripped straight from the final season of GoT and widely mocked. This film didn't subvert any of my expectations as it all plays out quite predictably in Disney fashion where the "good guys" come out on top in the end. The fact that this argument is even made illustrates the similarity to the previous films which set an expectation for how things are going to play out. I don't see how they really differed in any meaningful way as it all plays out the same in the end.

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                      I feel like the last 30 years of Star Wars movies could qualify here

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                      I've always felt like Star Wars the original 3 (4,5 and 6) were a product of their time. They aren't bad movies but they aren't great movies either, but for whatever reason they struck a chord with the population in the late 70's and early 80's. George Lucas should have just let them be there really was no reason to make any more of them, but money.

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                        That seems like a distinction without a difference.

                        Just for the fun of it, I took a screenshot of Google AIs take on the "deconstruction" argument:

                        "Challenging the Chosen One narrative"

                        Rey's parents were "nobody" yet so were Luke Skywalker's parents. The final film is titled "The Rise of Skywalker" on her path to becoming the chosen one.

                        "Revisiting Luke's Heroism"

                        Rehashes the same failures Obi Wan felt for not preventing Anakin from going to the dark side.

                        "Undermining Jedi Ideals"

                        Irrelevant point that could just as easily signify the film's creator's not being familiar with the intricacies of the source material.

                        "Exploration of Failure and Complexity"

                        Throughout all the films, the rebels are constantly facing failures. They get attacked, captured, fail to prevent events from occurring, etc.

                        "Subverting Expectations"

                        An expression ripped straight from the final season of GoT and widely mocked. This film didn't subvert any of my expectations as it all plays out quite predictably in Disney fashion where the "good guys" come out on top in the end. The fact that this argument is even made illustrates the similarity to the previous films which set an expectation for how things are going to play out. I don't see how they really differed in any meaningful way as it all plays out the same in the end.

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                        i ain't arguing with a machine

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                        • W [email protected]

                          I actually liked Cube Zero for the backstory and set styles. I don’t remember much else so I’m assuming it was shit, but you can give it a try if you want.

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                          I think OP pretty much summed up Cube Zero. The first installment is really just a horror fiction also depicting the structure of human society.

                          Yeah, Cube 2 is shit. It's a scientific concept show.

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                          • B [email protected]

                            I feel like the last 30 years of Star Wars movies could qualify here

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                            Disneys stance is to be middle of the ground on everything. Writers or source material bring in a ton of actually interesting stuff, only to be snubbed and half assed. It happens so consistently in all their shows. It's maddening!

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                              The Sarah Connor chronicles was the only sequel media that ever made sense to me

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                              I know, right? I was quite mad when l heard the show was cancelled after season two. I still want to know if she survived after taking a shotgun shot to this day.

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                                The movie In Time (2011). The premise was interesting but I can't even remember the plot because it was so meh.

                                I also think Idiocracy could have been better. It had good moments, and that's what most people remember, but the overall cohesiveness falls flat. Great moments, iconic scenes, but could have been a better film.

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                                At first I thought you meant there was a movie inside a movie called Time.

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                                  It didn't. I managed to stay until one of the autobots had to take a leak. I was too insulted at that point. Megan Fox came across as an absolute bore, but of course the guy has to stammer and stumble and try to impress the dead weight.

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                                  Megan Fox came across as an absolute bore

                                  Well, I wasn't looking at her for her acting. Some people are just nice to look at.

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                                    Wanted (2008) - The comics are brilliant, sharp, funny and intelligent. By leaving out everything smart/interesting from the comics they managed to create a mediocre action movie.

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                                    Except for shooting around corners and that thing with the car, those bits were cool.

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                                      Keanu reeves is such a weird casting choice. He's playing a guy from manchester and all he can do is play himself, like in every movie he does.

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                                      Keanu just can't shake the Messiah image after played Neo in The Matrix. Ever! It's too weird to see him playing Constantine.

                                      In contrast, the Constantine played by Matt Ryan in TV franchise Arrowverse was spot on.

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                                        Man in the High Castle tv show. The premise was interesting, Nazis taking over the US and the population figting back. However, the show quickly devolved into a confusing mess.

                                        Nazis are in charge of the US government, yet there's other Nazis on the run from the Nazis in charge? And they're hiding bibles? I was left scratching my head wondering if there were any characters that weren't Nazis. I guess it's a story about how bad guys always turn on each other?

                                        Also The Witcher season 1 tv show. I've never played the games before and knew nothing about it. I was hoping the tv series would be my introduction to the games, but... what in the actual fuck. Was the director drunk? Is this a show about medieval fantasy time travel and I'm just not getting it?

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                                        ahhh yeah Man in the High Castle, that's one where you oughta just read the book

                                        i'm ditto w/u on how annoying constant time displacement is in television YES EVEN ANDOR DAMMIT

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                                          i love TLJ so much i skipped the rest of the movies

                                          if you also like TLJ you should watch Kagemusha and When the Last Sword is Drawn and 13 Assassins

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