Vibe Coders might be serious, but I cannot take them seriously, especially when they say "It is a must-have skill".
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Just to clarify, I google a lot while coding, but one thing I learnt from my engineering degree is that is there is no 'best' solution.
How are any of the produced "apps" actually useful and not just buggy copies of better things that exist?
Am I missing something or is this just for generic, low tech "I need a website" use cases?
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How are any of the produced "apps" actually useful and not just buggy copies of better things that exist?
Am I missing something or is this just for generic, low tech "I need a website" use cases?
Am I missing something or is this just for generic, low tech “I need a website” use cases?
We already have tons of prebuilt websites available to slot someone's shitty home business into too. AI slop is just a worse version of the things we already had.
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How are any of the produced "apps" actually useful and not just buggy copies of better things that exist?
Am I missing something or is this just for generic, low tech "I need a website" use cases?
wrote last edited by [email protected]I did use AI for my first project to automate my coworkers job. But that was me learning how to set these things up with C#. I did the coding. ChatGpt told me if it was possible or not and how. Something someone with knowledge could make in a week I build in 3 months and refined into a very usable app.
But I didn't just let the AI do the thinking of what I should have the app do.
Edit: we did replace that guy with a person. But in the mean time that software I wrote helped my non technical boss work with us in the meantime. It does have its merrits.
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Oh gawds, I thouht the vid was a takedown, based on the initial ridiculous clip. but no he's actually serious.
I didn't watch any of it, but clicked a few points in time to see if there was some kind of reveal and came across this gem at 1:52:52
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Is "vibe coding" a real thing? I thought it was a meme.
My LinkedIn has recently become flooded with Suggested Posts from 3rd degree connections who have "Vibe Coding Guru" listed as their job and post lots of stuff saying "people who mock Vibe Coding just don't get it, and you too will be left behind if you don't subscribe to my newsletter (which ChatGPT writes for me)"
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I didn't watch any of it, but clicked a few points in time to see if there was some kind of reveal and came across this gem at 1:52:52
wrote last edited by [email protected]That's pretty accurate.
I'll bet our vibe coder even thought that "spaghetti" meant a fully baked app.
I can write good spaghetti without an LLM though, just it probably works the first time. And I hope to god that I don't use that spaghetti for any real world use.
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Just to clarify, I google a lot while coding, but one thing I learnt from my engineering degree is that is there is no 'best' solution.
I use AI for work and personal projects, sometimes even letting it generate file structures for me but damn does it ever need a lot of tweaking after generation to both work and be maintainable.
I don’t know how anything it spits out even works for those who just purely vibe code since it’s usually either wrong or broken.
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That's pretty accurate.
I'll bet our vibe coder even thought that "spaghetti" meant a fully baked app.
I can write good spaghetti without an LLM though, just it probably works the first time. And I hope to god that I don't use that spaghetti for any real world use.
"Spaghetti is a great dish so why would spaghetti code be bad?" - Vibe Coder
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Exactly. It's like vibe coders are not interested in writing the best code possible. They just want to write the code and not understand what goes on when a program is run.
Vibe coders wishfully think AI could be the end product. AI is a tool, it should never be the final product nor exposed to the user.
It's a fancy autocomplete to throw ideas against, you still need to know what the fuck you're doing, and vibe coders have no clue. This means we're now concerned about a rise in vulnerable code.
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I use AI for work and personal projects, sometimes even letting it generate file structures for me but damn does it ever need a lot of tweaking after generation to both work and be maintainable.
I don’t know how anything it spits out even works for those who just purely vibe code since it’s usually either wrong or broken.
legitimate question.
how do you expect humans to maintain a project that didn't base its patterns and organization on human thought patterns and organizational strategies?
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legitimate question.
how do you expect humans to maintain a project that didn't base its patterns and organization on human thought patterns and organizational strategies?
I don’t. Like I said, it needs a lot of tweaking and the only time I have it do more than laying down the base for a function is at the beginning of a new project that’s not too important (like personal projects). I end up rewriting nearly everything anyway but it helps with getting over that initial overwhelmed feeling when staring in a blank file
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Just to clarify, I google a lot while coding, but one thing I learnt from my engineering degree is that is there is no 'best' solution.
Of course there's a best solution.. it's whatever you end up with
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Of course there's a best solution.. it's whatever you end up with
I go for a good enough solution. I know better solutions exist but I'm limited by time and empathy.
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I go for a good enough solution. I know better solutions exist but I'm limited by time and empathy.
Better a good enough solution now that the best solution few weeks later.
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Just to clarify, I google a lot while coding, but one thing I learnt from my engineering degree is that is there is no 'best' solution.
"Coding" vs "programming" is such a great litmus test for whether someone actually knows what they're doing
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I use AI for work and personal projects, sometimes even letting it generate file structures for me but damn does it ever need a lot of tweaking after generation to both work and be maintainable.
I don’t know how anything it spits out even works for those who just purely vibe code since it’s usually either wrong or broken.
Because you understand that there is more to code than getting it to do what needs to be done, you can objectively judge code on more than one criteria. Meanwhile, vibe coders think that the concerns about structure and maintainability can be short circuited. No wonder, managers and vibe coders think alike.
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Is "vibe coding" a real thing? I thought it was a meme.
Yes.
I “vibe code” anything that is throwaway. If it’s throwaway code I don’t care about the quality, I just want the end result.
For everything else, I don’t vibe code.
There are definitely people who use AI as a crutch for their lack of technical skills. It’s the same folks who used to try to get coworkers to “help” and slowly built their tickets by cycling through teammates.
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Just to clarify, I google a lot while coding, but one thing I learnt from my engineering degree is that is there is no 'best' solution.
Has anyone else noticed a sudden surge of ads for AI-powered website building tools?
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Just to clarify, I google a lot while coding, but one thing I learnt from my engineering degree is that is there is no 'best' solution.
Blue light glasses? Lol, what a giant douche
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I don’t. Like I said, it needs a lot of tweaking and the only time I have it do more than laying down the base for a function is at the beginning of a new project that’s not too important (like personal projects). I end up rewriting nearly everything anyway but it helps with getting over that initial overwhelmed feeling when staring in a blank file
different strokes for different folks. I enjoy a fresh clean project that I can start with. I hate picking up someone else's mess so using AI in that manner completely goes against what I enjoy as a dev.
it originally sounded to me like you were having AI generate the hierarchy and project structure, but it sounds like you're just using it to generate file templates.
Thanks for the insight.
