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Another way electric cars clean the air: study says brake dust reduced by 83%

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    So good rarely having to use the brakes with my nussan leaf.

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      tires might need rethought though

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        Isn't there often increased tire wear particles, though? EDIT: Haha, I guess they mention that although that's somewhat true it's not as bad as brake dust.

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          tires might need rethought though

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          Yup, they already are the most common reason for micro plastics everywhere, so they need to be rethought as it is.

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            That's not cleaning, it's polluting less

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              Yup, they already are the most common reason for micro plastics everywhere, so they need to be rethought as it is.

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              Something like 9/10 of the tire dust and also wear on roads are from trucks.

              Personal transport is much less. It's not negligible, but the difference between fossil or electric fueled is basically just a talking points. The weight is the cause of increasing tire dust, and modern cars are all heavier than before regardless of fuel.

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                Isn't there often increased tire wear particles, though? EDIT: Haha, I guess they mention that although that's somewhat true it's not as bad as brake dust.

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                i think that comes from being heavier but I'm not 100% sure.

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                  That's not cleaning, it's polluting less

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                  that's every human endeavor

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                    That's not cleaning, it's polluting less

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                    My thoughts exactly. The title is almost comically misleading. But I was impressed when I saw that they dedicated an entire section of their article to actually explain that shifting to other modes of transport is several times more effective than fleet electrification.

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                      tires might need rethought though

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                      Okay here‘s my business idea: Tires but metal! Those metal wheels then drive on metal bars to transport groups of pods. Think of a network of rails that passengers can use to easily travel from one place to another. It‘s a closed system that barely interrupts other types of traffic and can even drastically reduce conjunctions by being very space efficient. All electric and much safer than cars too! Did I mention they can go much faster than cars on longer routes? You can even enjoy entertainment or get some work done while you travel!

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                        i think that comes from being heavier but I'm not 100% sure.

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                        Which is something that can be fixed by simply making smaller vehicles

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                          Huh, and I thought electrics produced more total tire wear due to the higher weight.

                          https://motorandwheels.com/electric-cars-go-through-tires-faster/

                          apparently, the instant torque too...

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                            Which is something that can be fixed by simply making smaller vehicles

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                            Blasphemy

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                              that's every human endeavor

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                              Cleaning up pollution is a human endeavor and it reduces pollution.

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                                Huh, and I thought electrics produced more total tire wear due to the higher weight.

                                https://motorandwheels.com/electric-cars-go-through-tires-faster/

                                apparently, the instant torque too...

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                                How much more do they weight?

                                About that instant torque, you have got to see how some people drive their (ICE) cars.

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                                  How much more do they weight?

                                  About that instant torque, you have got to see how some people drive their (ICE) cars.

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                                  Yeah, not by much actually, just 10 to 15%

                                  e.g. https://thedriven.io/2024/05/03/are-evs-really-much-heavier-than-their-ice-equivalents/

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                                    Which is something that can be fixed by simply making smaller vehicles

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                                    What do you mean? I need my 5 ton off-road monster truck to get the kids to school and pick up some groceries!

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                                      Cleaning up pollution is a human endeavor and it reduces pollution.

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                                      Humans pollute, pollution needs reducing, ergo we reduce humans. Seems logical to me.

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                                        Okay here‘s my business idea: Tires but metal! Those metal wheels then drive on metal bars to transport groups of pods. Think of a network of rails that passengers can use to easily travel from one place to another. It‘s a closed system that barely interrupts other types of traffic and can even drastically reduce conjunctions by being very space efficient. All electric and much safer than cars too! Did I mention they can go much faster than cars on longer routes? You can even enjoy entertainment or get some work done while you travel!

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                                        I'm not sure if you're referring to trains/trams or genuinely suggesting that there could be a rail-based system for individual traffic (i.e., people use individual pods without restrictions on start/stop location or time). The latter seems genuinely utopian to me if it can be made to work.

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                                          Something like 9/10 of the tire dust and also wear on roads are from trucks.

                                          Personal transport is much less. It's not negligible, but the difference between fossil or electric fueled is basically just a talking points. The weight is the cause of increasing tire dust, and modern cars are all heavier than before regardless of fuel.

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                                          This is something I noticed too. Some years ago, one of the futuristic aspects of EVs was how silent they were. Meanwhile, where I live, the newest fad seems to be to buy enormous E-SUVs, and I've noticed that I can't tell much of a difference between the conventional and electric versions of these cars in terms of noise (for small cars, the difference is substantial).

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