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  • pelespirit@sh.itjust.worksP [email protected]

    No, it's a file system issue. It randomly makes folders and decides where to put things. A photo could be in the dcim folder, a photos folder on my outside card or a photos. It may or may not be in recents.

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    #103

    I'm saying that people who have grown up in the world of smartphones and apps are used to files just going into the ether and the app knowing where it is, and they never learned how to navigate a file system.

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    • T [email protected]

      Terrible analogy honestly.
      Feel free to not use this software, nobody will ever force you to use it.

      This is not software to entertain you. It's a tool that you don't understand how to use and choose to blame the people building it for free.

      gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.comG This user is from outside of this forum
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      #104

      It's a tool that you don't understand how to use and choose to blame the people building it for free failing to properly document their tool.

      Ftfy

      Just because it's provided free doesn't mean you're off the hook for not telling people how it works, dumbass

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      • C [email protected]

        This is a real problem with young people coming into the office. They don't know how to navigate a file system. They've never had to do it.

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        #105

        I suppose those are the same people who make a full screen screenshot in order to share a picture.

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          Here is the entire output I get when I get that command.

          username@server:~$ dpkg -L samba /usr/share/doc/samba/examples /usr/share/doc/samba/examples/LDAP /usr/share/doc/samba/examples/LDAP/README /usr/share/doc/samba/examples/LDAP/get_next_oid /usr/share/doc/samba/examples/LDAP/ol-schema-migrate.pl /usr/share/doc/samba/examples/LDAP/samba-nds.schema /usr/share/doc/samba/examples/LDAP/samba-schema-FDS.ldif /usr/share/doc/samba/examples/LDAP/samba-schema-netscapeds5.x.README /usr/share/doc/samba/examples/LDAP/samba-schema.IBMSecureWay /usr/share/doc/samba/examples/LDAP/samba.ldif /usr/share/doc/samba/examples/LDAP/samba.schema /usr/share/doc/samba/examples/LDAP/samba.schema.at.IBM-DS /usr/share/doc/samba/examples/LDAP/samba.schema.oc.IBM-DS /usr/share/doc/samba/examples/logon /usr/share/doc/samba/examples/logon/genlogon /usr/share/doc/samba/examples/logon/genlogon/genlogon.pl /usr/share/doc/samba/examples/logon/mklogon /usr/share/doc/samba/examples/logon/mklogon/mklogon.conf /usr/share/doc/samba/examples/logon/mklogon/mklogon.pl /usr/share/doc/samba/examples/logon/ntlogon /usr/share/doc/samba/examples/logon/ntlogon/README /usr/share/doc/samba/examples/logon/ntlogon/ntlogon.conf /usr/share/doc/samba/examples/logon/ntlogon/ntlogon.py /usr/share/doc/samba/examples/printing /usr/share/doc/samba/examples/printing/VampireDriversFunctions /usr/share/doc/samba/examples/printing/prtpub.c /usr/share/doc/samba/examples/printing/readme.prtpub /usr/share/doc/samba/examples/printing/smbprint.sysv /usr/share/lintian /usr/share/lintian/overrides /usr/share/lintian/overrides/samba /usr/share/man /usr/share/man/man1 /usr/share/man/man1/log2pcap.1.gz /usr/share/man/man1/mvxattr.1.gz /usr/share/man/man1/oLschema2ldif.1.gz /usr/share/man/man1/profiles.1.gz /usr/share/man/man1/sharesec.1.gz /usr/share/man/man1/smbcontrol.1.gz /usr/share/man/man1/smbstatus.1.gz /usr/share/man/man8 /usr/share/man/man8/eventlogadm.8.gz /usr/share/man/man8/nmbd.8.gz /usr/share/man/man8/pdbedit.8.gz /usr/share/man/man8/samba-bgqd.8.gz /usr/share/man/man8/samba-gpupdate.8.gz /usr/share/man/man8/samba.8.gz /usr/share/man/man8/samba_downgrade_db.8.gz /usr/share/man/man8/smbd.8.gz /usr/share/samba /usr/share/samba/admx /usr/share/samba/admx/GNOME_Settings.admx /usr/share/samba/admx/en-US /usr/share/samba/admx/en-US/GNOME_Settings.adml /usr/share/samba/admx/en-US/samba.adml /usr/share/samba/admx/ru-RU /usr/share/samba/admx/ru-RU/GNOME_Settings.adml /usr/share/samba/admx/samba.admx /usr/share/samba/mdssvc /usr/share/samba/mdssvc/elasticsearch_mappings.json /usr/share/samba/update-apparmor-samba-profile /var /var/lib /var/lib/samba /var/lib/samba/printers /var/lib/samba/printers/COLOR /var/lib/samba/printers/IA64 /var/lib/samba/printers/W32ALPHA /var/lib/samba/printers/W32MIPS /var/lib/samba/printers/W32PPC /var/lib/samba/printers/W32X86 /var/lib/samba/printers/WIN40 /var/lib/samba/printers/x64 /usr/share/bug/samba/presubj /usr/share/bug/samba/script

          Now, if I grep those commands, I get these outputs

          username@server:~$ dpkg -S samba | grep "smb.conf" samba-common: /usr/share/samba/smb.conf samba-common: /usr/share/doc/samba-common/examples/smb.conf.default python3-samba: /usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/samba/gp/gp_smb_conf_ext.py

          username@server:~$ dpkg -L samba | grep "smb.conf" username@server:~$

          And these are copy and pasted straight from my terminal.

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          #106

          Like I said, it obviously can only track files installed by the package, if the conf was generated by the executable after, or if you created it, the package system cannot know about it.

          Also, you're still using -S wrong. It takes a file path as argument, not a package name. And does the opposite of -L by showing you which installed package, if any, owns an existing file.

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            It literally does show up under recent for me. I used the screen recorder built in stock and it shows up as a recent file. Did you even try to do this exact thing?

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            #107

            It's an audio recording app, not a screen recording app. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.apps.recorder

            That's why I said look under audio instead of video.

            Either way, I edited it to be specific about what apps I am using.

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            • C [email protected]

              I'm saying that people who have grown up in the world of smartphones and apps are used to files just going into the ether and the app knowing where it is, and they never learned how to navigate a file system.

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              #108

              I know what you were saying.

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                #109

                I miss when computers did what you wanted them to do and not what the corporation wants you to do.

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                • R [email protected]

                  It used to be so much simpler. I remember having a Galaxy S3 and whenever I saved a file I knew exactly where it went. There was a file explorer built in, and downloads went to the downloads folder.

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                  Is that not how it still works? When I download a file, it either goes straight to the Downloads folder, or to an app-specific subfolder within Downloads. And there's a Files app that lets you go through the file system (although I'm sure there are some system folders that aren't accessible without rooting). I don't think I've ever been confused about where a file is saved.

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                  • K [email protected]

                    I suppose those are the same people who make a full screen screenshot in order to share a picture.

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                    #111

                    No, they're taking a picture of the screen with their phone.

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                    • W [email protected]

                      Like I said, it obviously can only track files installed by the package, if the conf was generated by the executable after, or if you created it, the package system cannot know about it.

                      Also, you're still using -S wrong. It takes a file path as argument, not a package name. And does the opposite of -L by showing you which installed package, if any, owns an existing file.

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                      #112

                      And like I said

                      this command didn't really do what I wanted it to do then

                      I just want to do something like find {package name} | grep "config.conf" or something like that. I normally know what the program is called, I just don't know where it is located.

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                        #113

                        I'm pretty sure this is google chrome issue. When I use Samsung Internet, I can choose the download location

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                          #114

                          i wrote a whole comment but deleted it this comment explains better https://programming.dev/comment/17202550

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                            It's almost as if this is a computer architecture designed for idiots who don't know or care what a file is or for what purposes their data is being harvested. Everywhere I hear people falling over themselves to declare that the tablet smartphone was apple's golden gift to the world. Try to do any serious work on one, it's fucking annoying.

                            Whenever we make technology accessible to stupid people it becomes irritating to use and a privacy nightmare.

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                            It’s almost as if this is a computer architecture designed for idiots human beings who don’t know or care what a file is interact with computers on a non-file oriented basis or have been lied to and systemically unsupported in their education for what purposes their data is being harvested.

                            No hate. No useful conversation starts with calling large swaths of people idiots, is all.

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                              #116

                              File manager > Recent files

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                                I really lost my shit when Firefox downloaded some Belfort & Lupin subtitles and I could not for the fucking live of me find them.

                                Turns out it put them in the "Movies" folder instead of "Downloads" where it actually put the corresponding video files.

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                                • flatplutosociety@lemmy.worldF [email protected]

                                  Is that not how it still works? When I download a file, it either goes straight to the Downloads folder, or to an app-specific subfolder within Downloads. And there's a Files app that lets you go through the file system (although I'm sure there are some system folders that aren't accessible without rooting). I don't think I've ever been confused about where a file is saved.

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                                  cc @[email protected]

                                  i think there’s lots of different flavors of android or something, such that different phones handle the user-facing file system totally differently. it might also be that nicer phones the devs put more effort into making UX have a more forgiving learning curve but because android isn’t truly open source those developments are inaccessible to other users

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                                    I really lost my shit when Firefox downloaded some Belfort & Lupin subtitles and I could not for the fucking live of me find them.

                                    Turns out it put them in the "Movies" folder instead of "Downloads" where it actually put the corresponding video files.

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                                    sounds like your pitiful mind cant understand the unix file oriented philosophy and you should stay 10 feet away from all information technology /sarcasm

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                                      sounds like your pitiful mind cant understand the unix file oriented philosophy and you should stay 10 feet away from all information technology /sarcasm

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                                      Technology and sarcasm?!?!

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                                        File manager > Recent files

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                                        Recent files > move file where you want itfrom there

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                                          Technology and sarcasm?!?!

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                                          I've got a bad feeling this might catch on…

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